The 300 series was stupid enough as-is for being backward incompatible just to add another 2 cores, and yet they didn't have the foresight to consider that an 8-core model would also be made? They really couldn't have just done a BIOS update for Z370?

It is done on purpose so they dont need foresight to consider the 8-core.

According to the Intel website, z370 was launched Q4'17. And it's already going to end-of-life? What the heck?

vonSternberg:

According to the Intel website, z370 was launched Q4'17. And it's already going to end-of-life? What the heck?

Did happen before with Atom chips. Yes, CPU being EoL shortly after release.

"Here, buy our new $300 motherboard for that crispy new processor!" - Intel

I have the impression, that most of the people are still highly unwilling to learn... As long as 'Intel' is written on top of the box - they go and buy... no matter how often the sockets will be changed, no matter how little the ipc-improvement is, no matter how quickly new parts are facing an early eol. &No, I'm not an AMD-fanboy - the heart of my rig is a 5930k since 2014, but i was very sad, how quickly x99 was replaced by x299 (although it could be foreseen, when looking at x79)! I'm very glad AMD pulled the trigger with their AM4- & TR4-lineup, otherwise the 'mainstream-enthusiast-segment' would still be using only quadcores... how sad. And finally, what is still (half) a mystery to me: although people are more and more switching to resolutions like 1440p/4K, mindfactory sold twice as much i7-8700k (~7k) compared to the latest AMD-mainsteram-flagship (~3.5k), since R7-2700X appeard... how ridiculous (exept you're gaming in 720p 😀 - SCNR). We'll see how many are running like thirsty cattle to the 'promised Land' (Z390+8 cores). The only small light at the end of the tunnel gave me the sales numers of the i7-8086k (~0.25k) - maybe I'm starting to get/be wrong in my 'observations' (hopefully). But we'll see - on AM4 Zen2 will offer up to 16 cores... (and 64 on TR4?) - maybe that will help; @least should it put Intel on full brown alert, so that maybe again it'll pay of for us consumers. 🙂

As a former Intel fanboy, I'm willing to admit the fact that Intel are once again making things worse for themselves, by ruining what little is left of their reputation. I don't want to change my motherboard every year to change CPU, just because their greedy shareholders think it's a good idea and I'll be happy to jump on the AMD bandwagon eventually. Only thing holding me back from a purchase is the low core speeds (or "ipc") but from what I've read Ryzen 2 should give me that much needed performance increase over Ryzen+. Now I may not be as forgiving or favorable when it comes to AMD graphics cards (vs. Nvidia) but that's another topic in and of itself and people will flag my comment as "troll" as soon as I bring it up.

Classic Intel... Platforms with less than a year lifetime.. congrats.. AMD Ryzen is the way to go!

Dj_ALeX:

Classic Intel... Platforms with less than a year lifetime.. congrats.. AMD Ryzen is the way to go!

I have no idea what that statement means. You do know if partners stop offering motherboards based on Z370 and shift to Z390 that your system doesn't somehow stop working, right? Intel releasing a new chipset doesn't mean someone comes and rips the Z370 out of your system thus ending its life. It will continue on working happily for years. If you mean there is something newer that is maybe slightly more capable or even equally capable around then it is like just about every piece of technology around. New TVs, cars, coffee makers, washers, phones, etc appear all the time. There wouldn't be many companies left if they only released a new product every 3 or 4 years. Also @Hilbert, the title infers Z390 will replace Z370 then it says Z270 in the first paragraph.

And still PCI-E 3.0? Looks like my little 370 still has nothing to fear.

SSD_PRO:

You do know if partners stop offering motherboards based on Z370 and shift to Z390 that your system doesn't somehow stop working, right?.

My concern would be that manufacturers will neglect a board they no longer offer, rolling out BIOS slower or not at all.

schmidtbag:

They really couldn't have just done a BIOS update for Z370?

they could and they apparently are releasing BIOS updates: https://www.techpowerup.com/246038/intel-z370-chipset-motherboards-get-8-core-cpu-compatibility-bios-updates -andy-

SSD_PRO:

I have no idea what that statement means. You do know if partners stop offering motherboards based on Z370 and shift to Z390 that your system doesn't somehow stop working, right? Intel releasing a new chipset doesn't mean someone comes and rips the Z370 out of your system thus ending its life. It will continue on working happily for years. If you mean there is something newer that is maybe slightly more capable or even equally capable around then it is like just about every piece of technology around. New TVs, cars, coffee makers, washers, phones, etc appear all the time. There wouldn't be many companies left if they only released a new product every 3 or 4 years. Also @Hilbert, the title infers Z390 will replace Z370 then it says Z270 in the first paragraph.

What i meant its crystal clear my friend. I had enough with Intel policies and buying every new generation of processors a new mobo just because intel wants to stole my money despite the pricing. I never said anything different or anything mentioned above in your post.

Hardly a surprise the 6 core processors and the Z370 platform was rushed to market to counter the AMD Ryzen, the Z370 could not be validated for older processors as this would have delayed their release and give Ryzen more time on the market so Intels Market share would decline and the 8 core CPU's were not ready so things like phase requirements was not available. Thats not to say the Z370 from the likes of ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI that have huge amounts of phases could not support the 8 cores but since Intel reference motherboard can not supply the power it's not likely Intel will provide the ODM the applicable BIOS to allow support for them and thus even the high end Z370's may not be capable of supporting the 8 cores even if technically they could. The 6 core processors and Z370 platform was from a panicking Intel to get something to market to compete.

How many chipsets use the 1151 now, no plans to change my delidded 7700k or my Msi z270 Camo Squad.

it will still be faster than anything AMD has .... it will sell very well on that merit alone.

The Goose:

How many chipsets use the 1151 now, no plans to change my delidded 7700k or my Msi z270 Camo Squad.

17 chipsets, over 3 generations.

typhon6657:

I would like more clock speed and less cores.

Yea ....if I could get a used 8600k/8700k at a good price I would be happy. I don't think core wars is going to be a factor for gaming....fast clock speed/ yes

airbud7:

it will still be faster than anything AMD has .... it will sell very well on that merit alone.

Yea whatever, not sorry here but this is not the 2600k vs FX 8XXX anymore. AMD is caught up fast. Their IPC is close enough, and with more clock speed intel will be in more trouble. Alot of people are fed up with Intel. I have personal Intel fanboys that have sold their rigs to go Zen+. Some of them even had 7700k rigs. Intels speed advantage is dwindling. Core wars for gaming is there, just not like it is with the HDET platform core wars. But anyways, Intel can F***ED for all I care right now. My 3930k system was my last intel system for a long time, and I will be replacing my dual 1366 Xeon server with a single R7 1700 that performs better.

God damn, this is getting stupid. There is literally no reason for Intel to sit on the *actual* information about either the Z370/390 or the octacores anymore.