The first release will not be targeted at the consumer market. They will be HPC accelerator cards. The first customer for these cards is actually the US Department of Energy. They have already ordered a "Supercomputer" with 4 Intel Xe HPC accelerator cards. Raja is expected to release some information in regards to Xe on 17 November.

icedman:

I'm surprised they're going with hbm on this they must have high confidence that sales will make up for the extra cost or like past AMD cards it requires it due to another constraint

Since the first release will be HPC accelerator cards, the benefits outweigh the costs.....

ladcrooks:

I knew it, Raja didnt leave Amd , his task is to lead Intel down the road of no success by brain washing Intel, that making a HBM vga card is a sales killer. Well done Raja , you cheeky saboteur 😀

That might be true....if these were going to be graphics cards. They're actually going to be HPC accelerator cards.

JamesSneed:

It will be as cheap as it needs to be to move a ton of product. Like AMD CPU's Intel's GPU's will need to get market share to build confidence so I can seem them offering at lowest prices to move as much as they can. Realistically if the performance is there they won't be undercutting AMD and Nvidia by large margins, say 15-20% and this is just for the first generation.

There won't be much if any undercutting of NVidia with these cards.....and there won't be any undercutting of AMD since NVidia completely dominates the HPC accelerator market, where these cards are heading....

JamesSneed:

If its professional GPU's only then realistically HBM is the only choice if you want to compete with Nvidia which also uses HBM in some of their highest end profesional cards.

These aren't "professional" cards. They're HPC accelerator cards. Completely different market. These will be attempting to compete with NVidia's Tesla cards in the HPC market.

@sykozis I wasn't aware we had info that these would only be HPC cards and not be profesional cards as well. I must have missed that news from Intel. I assume Intel wouldn't use HBM in gaming cards but then if they fab the HBM themselves and connect it up via EMIB/Foveros/Interposers they could do it pretty cheaply internally which cost has been the only real issue of HBM.

airbud7:

2080ti killer for $2999 in coming I tell ya!.........:p we can only wish at this point...:D

There, I fixed your typo 😉

I saw 2080ti killer for $299 and then saw above ' for $2999 ' There, I fixed your typo 😉 ' That's made me laugh again 😀

Guys i know this article does not talk about the consumer gaming cards , but ...... What if the best value combo for gaming pc on the 800-1200 range next year is amd cpu +intel vga ....... I tell you sounds like the first sign of the apocalypse!

Venix:

Guys i know this article does not talk about the consumer gaming cards , but ...... What if the best value combo for gaming pc on the 800-1200 range next year is amd cpu +intel vga ....... I tell you sounds like the first sign of the apocalypse!

If that turns out to be the case, there will be an Intel graphics card in my sig..... No big deal really. If Intel can compete with NVidia on performance and AMD on price. I'll buy. As long as the card does what I want/need....within a price range of $200-350 USD, I don't care who makes it.

sykozis:

If that turns out to be the case, there will be an Intel graphics card in my sig..... No big deal really. If Intel can compete with NVidia on performance and AMD on price. I'll buy. As long as the card does what I want/need....within a price range of $200-350 USD, I don't care who makes it.

Honestly they do not need to beat either on performance or consumption amd and nvidia as far they offer the best price/performance in the 200-300 range they can sure snatch a good portion of the market I was just jocking cause the notion of a gaming pc with amd cpu and intel gpu sounds really alien thats all!