Intel Xe (DG1) desktop graphics card listed at Sandra, listed at 768 shader processors

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#5787422
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I've always wanted Intel to have a serious stab at the GPU market, but this thing has fail written all over it. At this point even the Larrabee showed more potential.
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Stairmand:

I've always wanted Intel to have a serious stab at the GPU market, but this thing has fail written all over it. At this point even the Larrabee showed more potential.
Do you expect their first model to bring out 2080ti performance?
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Not at all, but I'd like to see the top end model at least getting towards the 2060 Super area. The only previous one they have shown off they refused to let people benchmark it but the consensus was that it was 1050 performance.
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Stairmand:

Not at all, but I'd like to see the top end model at least getting towards the 2060 Super area. The only previous one they have shown off they refused to let people benchmark it but the consensus was that it was 1050 performance.
Yeah, and it's a lower-end card, so....yeah?
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Stairmand:

Not at all, but I'd like to see the top end model at least getting towards the 2060 Super area. The only previous one they have shown off they refused to let people benchmark it but the consensus was that it was 1050 performance.
Most of Intel's efforts at the moment is going to go toward fulfilling the contract requirements of the supercomputer they are supposed to build with their own CPUs and GPUs. Other than that, they will be busy upgrading the iGPU side, as always. This video card is little but an engineering prototype. In fact I assume it's the minimal effort from turning an iGPU into a dedicated video card GPU.
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Stairmand:

Not at all, but I'd like to see the top end model at least getting towards the 2060 Super area. The only previous one they have shown off they refused to let people benchmark it but the consensus was that it was 1050 performance.
Important part is number of transistors and how big they intend to make biggest single die GPU. Considering that it has 1MB L2 cache, they can go into region of 4~6 times as big. As can be seen from previous big ass example of Xe, they are not afraid to fail by going big. Depending on clock and power efficiency, they can surely make some desktop GPU with 10~14 TFLOPs of FP32. Then people will ask: "How much does it cost?"
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So listen, i understand there's a big difference between igpu and dedicated gpu. But at the core is still a damn gpu, architecturally speaking. So why is it so hard for Intel to deliver a dedicated one? I mean they already do it with igpu's, just remove the damn cpu from the die and buff that gpu chip that you have atm and see what happens.
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@Hilbert Hagedoorn actually Intel has confirmed already that DG-1 won't be seen in retail as a discrete product (as if it wasn't clear already when they said Xe-LPs upper limit is 50W). It's only available in PCIe form as a Software Development Vehicle for now, but once Xe's get released it will be only be paired with the iGPU in laptops. The info is available on this PDF https://ecpannualmeeting.com/assets/overview/sessions/SYCL_Programming_Model_for_Aurora.pdf (thanks to Komachi Ensaka https://twitter.com/KOMACHI_ENSAKA/status/1259285205812043776 )
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buhehe:

Do you expect their first model to bring out 2080ti performance?
I expect something better than 2.3 tflops which even a Radeon 7870 beat in 2012.