Intel to release third Core i line at 14 after Skylake - Kabi Lake
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EspHack
LGA 1151? lol not surprising being intel
xIcarus
It's skylake's socket. I don't see the problem?
Matt26LFC
What exactly is the point of Kaby Lake? Not sure I'm following what it offers over the Skylake chip/chipset? Is this like a place holder because 10nm is perhaps going to be delayed? Or is just because Intel can milk the Skylake architecture a bit more since AMD has pretty much nothing!?
TyrantofJustice
I just want skylake already... want a new mobo badly... trying to fight the itch to go from x87 to x97
warezme
X58
I'm still rocking an EVGA X58SLI based motherboard. I was looking to do a complete overhaul with Skylake this winter but my aging GTX590 died and EVGA (lifetime warranty) kicked in and they replaced it with a GTX970. It's a little glitchy with 3 monitors but debating now just getting a second GTX970 and be done with it. The CPU (old OC'ed i7 920) has been humming along fine and with SSD's it runs really well.
vbetts
Moderator
Skylake I'm pretty sure is when I'll be upgrading. My rig isn't bad now, but I can't really do too much more with it.
Undying
Both 6600/6700k are 4core CPU's. Do you really think that would be an upgrade from Haswell?
I would rather get a x99 and 5820k.
TyrantofJustice
will there not be any six core variants?
also wont it still be a better cpu even at four cores?
im asking because i am unsure.
thanks
Enticles
not with the way Intel are structuring their platforms, they have the whole 99-series platform dedicated to their 6-8 core enthusiast CPU's. where as the 97 is aimed at mid-high end quad core CPU's.
undying pretty much hit it on the head in his post - the gains to be had vs the cost of the platform upgrade doesn't really make it worth it from a value perspective. if you have an itch to get a new rig then go ahead, just don't expect it to be leaps and bounds ahead of what you already have 🙂
tsunami231
one day maybe in far off future, the 6600/6700k look good to me unless by the time i actual update my rig there is 6core/ht with stock 4ghz
Fender178
I wonder when Laptops will support DDR4 memory? You would think they would be close to supporting it. I hope that sometime in the future that Intel will make 6-8 cores mainstream rather than enthusiasts.
TyrantofJustice
so then maybe i will just get the ASUS sabertooth white editiong z97 mobo to go with my new all white build and call it a day and just keep my current cpu
Andrew LB
Skylake is a major architecture redesign.
It's my understanding that Skylake is getting rid of the integrated voltage regulator and adding the PCH directly to the die. I'm guessing many of the chips will use DDR4, PCI Express 4.0, and I believe DMI 3.0 which will greatly speed things up. It should also have much faster graphics with large amounts (like 128mb) of EDRAM, but probably on only certain chips that get Iris Pro.
Depending on performance, it may be a worthy upgrade for my 4670k. Only time will tell.
Emille
Hopefully Kaby Lake will get ris of the dual memory configuration of ddr3/ddr4 that skylake has and just have dd4. Also the lack of pci 4.0 on skylake made that entire platform pointless to me.
Not sure is skylake has usb 3.1 type c but that is another feature that is mandatory for me on a new platform.
I hope they gey rid of all the usb 2.0 slots as well because there is no point for outdated legacy features when 3.0 can run 2.0 devices natively.
By the time Kaby lake comes out, hopefully ddr4 will be cheap and we will have some juicy 2TB SSD's and a new gpu series.
My next upgrade is going to have to last a very long time, it needs to tick all the boxes.
theoneofgod
What do you need PCI-E 4.0 for?
Matt26LFC
Yeah I know Skylake is a major re design from haswell/broadwell, just not sure what the point of Kaby Lake is. Can't see it being PCIe 4.0 as that's going on Skylake-E, Skylake will already have DDR4 support and I think Skylake is already DMI 3.0.
Apart from PCH on DIE I'm not sure what this will have that Skylake won't, hopefully as time goes by we'll know more.
On and I'm not sure why you think it'll be a worthy upgrade over haswell, unless there's something in the chipset you want and can't get with Z87
Emille
Future proofing of course.
For people with a 4ghz i7 920 they would have been fine today if the boards had pci 3.0...but they didn't and subsequently many people with 700 series in sli or people with a 980 or 980 ti would have a large bottleneck, especially when overclocking.
Having the next standard in pci on a platform you intend to keep for 3-5 years means you don't have to pay twice as much money to replace a skylake board again in 3 years time due to the gpus at that time being significantly faster and having pci 4.0 which would be bottlenecked on a 3.0 slot.
Even if it's 'only' 10% off your next gpu upgrade's performance...that's still a big margin and when it comes to even further down the track, what is the point in upgrading in 4 years time if your gpu will lose 40% of it's performance.
-Tj-
pcie 4.0 won't be in mainstream just yet..
Skylake-E will be the first one, mainstream will follow probably with Cannonlake or later.
If Z170 will also CannonLake capable then definitely the thing after CannonLake.
theoneofgod
I would agree if 3.0 was anywhere near a bottleneck.
TheF34RChannel
There's a site that did PCI-e 2.0 vs 3.0 and the differences in real world use were sometimes 1 or 2 frames. I'd say 4.0 isn't future-proofing; 4.0 isn't neccesary for anything and it's almost for sure not going to give anyone anywhere near a 10 % difference. I tried finding the site but couldn't, maybe do a quick Google search?
"PCIe 4.0 might launch in 2017"
Article: http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/pcie_4_0_might_launch_in_2017/1
And:
"Intel’s 10nm Volume Ramp and Cannonlake Microarchitecture Delayed Due to Yield Problems"
Read more: http://*************/intel-10nm-ramp-canonlake-delayed-yield/#ixzz3eCZZBfGn <- why doesn't this work? It's on WCCFTech.
Skylake-E? Where did you find info on that, I'd like to have a read as well 🙂 It's the first time I've heard of it.
