Updated: Intel CPU overclocking software and is to release new Core X CPUs

Netherwind

2019-05-28 16:41

Kaarme:

Maybe I should download it just to see what kind of error messages I will get. Who knows, maybe it will actually work because aside from the number of cores and support for lolptane, it's still more or less the same CPU. It's Intel we are talking about, after all, they don't like to change things.

Skylake is skylake, right? 🙂

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TLD LARS

2019-05-28 16:54

metagamer:

Intel and AMD both have clauses about running outside of the recommended spec.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They have clauses against it, but they themselves use out of spec memory speeds in benchmarks and they are not doing anything about the out of the box overclocking, that happens on 80% of all store bought motherboards.

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svan71

2019-05-28 16:54

Meltdown, Spectre ZombieLoad, RIDL, and Fallout vulnerabilities included?

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metagamer

2019-05-28 16:57

TLD LARS:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They have clauses against it, but they themselves use out of spec memory speeds in benchmarks and they are not doing anything about the out of the box overclocking, that happens on 80% of all store bought motherboards.

I know. But it's both, not just Intel, like the guy I was replying to seems to think.

#5674275

RonanH

2019-05-28 17:14

karma777police:

Intel will adjust the pricing of their lineup so good thing is that they got competition which will drive Intel prices even lower which means I am about to drop 12/24 Intel 2066 socket CPU for cheap.

Your logic doesn't make sense. First of all Intel are not going to reduce the price of the 9900X by half, secondly, if you have the need for that many cores you're WAY better off with an AMD platform with even more cores which is demonstrably better at multithreaded tasks and has way more PCI-Ex lanes.

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Alessio1989

2019-05-28 17:21

I don't think we need the text... https://imgflip.com/s/meme/See-Nobody-Cares.jpg

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illrigger

2019-05-28 18:43

karma777police:

If people see 9900k for $379 people are going to buy it before they buy Zen 2, trust me on this one. Speaking of security I don't care about any of that BS. The chance that my desktop system gets compromised are almost next to impossible. I have higher chance winning the lottery. In that sense I removed Spectre and other useless patches. They are just that...useless. Zen 2 won't bring any performance improvement over 9900k for people to sell their Intel counterparts, simply won't especially not in gaming. AMD essentially delivered i7/i9 performance for less money...that's basically what Zen 2 delivers. Honestly, I was hoping for more.

Intel won't lower their prices that far - even in the worst of times they never competed that closely in prices. For one thing, they have no products to compete with AMD above 8c/16t except the super-expensive HEDT lines, so if they dropped the 9900k to match the $399 3800X then they are basically surrendering the high end to AMD, who have a 16c/32t waiting in the wings to steal the show when Intel officially launches Cascade Lake X. The best they will do is lower it to $499 to match the 3900X. As for security, you seriously don't understand how this stuff works. They don't give a crap who you are, how big or small. They launch a worm, collect your data, put it in a big pile with all the other nobodys and sell the pile to someone who mines it to exploit anything they can via whatever script, and then THEY sell anything they find to someone who will exploit it to make money. Just because you are nobody doesn't mean you aren't going to get hosed, because the personal info of ten thousand nobodys is actually more valuable than one important person. The days of security via obscurity ended half a decade ago.

#5674321

FatBoyNL

2019-05-28 18:45

karma777police:

Intel will adjust the pricing of their lineup so good thing is that they got competition which will drive Intel prices even lower which means I am about to drop 12/24 Intel 2066 socket CPU for cheap.

Sure, Intel does not worry at all. They announced a Zen2-killer only to be released six months later and even you confirm they probably need to cut prices by 20-30% to be/stay competitive. I guess Intel is just bored to hell by all this fake news 😛

#5674357

Astyanax

2019-05-28 20:21

Intels IPC is reducing every day, what will be it tomorrow when the next exploit is patched.

#5674373

GeniusPr0

2019-05-28 21:07

karma777police:

Honestly Intel got nothing to worry about. Zen 2 does not have muscles to beat 9900k in gaming and that's all what matters to 90% of people out there. I am sure they will have some price adjustment but that's about it. I see no reason why Intel should worry about anything. The only contender against 9900k in gaming is 8/16 Zen 2. 12 and 16 core have nothing cause they will run slower clock. Extra cores play no role. 12/24 Cores being $499 is out of reach for 90% of people therefore plays no role at all. The market is not in range of $500+ dollars. I am positive Intel will adjust pricing for their 2066 socket CPUs where you can already get 12/24 version for < $900. Intel was in much worse position with P4 against AMD64. That was true performance crown AMD had. Zen 2 is merely catching up...meh. The best product in Zen 2 line is their <$300 8/16, that blows up my mind because of how much performance AMD offers for how much less $$$ compared to 9900k. As I said Intel really doesn't need a new product to compete but a big price adjustment. If they do that across the board including 2066 socket platform they are in the game. Being on 2066 socket platform, really excited about Cascade Lake X for the current x299 2066 socket. Also Intel will release a new 2066 socket chipset but CPU will be compatible on x299 and newer chipset.

Zen 2 8 core is one die + I/O die IIRC supports 4Ghz DDR4+ which gains remain to be seen Your 12 core argument means nothing because they can be overclocked. Yields will increase and so will top end clocks. Where Intel wins is the mobile arena. The 9980HK is the most impressive CPU because it has potential for 5GHz yet at lower wattage than 9900K. And besides clocks and RAM speed only matter for 1920x1080, 4K can be any CPU and 2080 TI will be the bottleneck as well as the next big gpu.

#5674383

Clouseau

2019-05-28 21:34

Have to say I'm impressed they are putting out software for overclocking the cpu on the fly. Is the assumption to be made that this is for an all core oc or the amount of cores can be adjusted to create a custom curve. Since I do not use the Ryzen Master software, does AMD have something comparable that offers the same?

#5674386

tsunami231

2019-05-28 21:47

am i the only one not interested in such software? even if its a monkey see monkey do thing? I still switching to Ryzen next build.

#5674388

Koniakki

2019-05-28 21:51

So basically Intel is "voiding" their own warranty with this. 😀

#5674415

Venix

2019-05-28 23:12

Dear lord from having the best gaming "cpu" being the best argument for the 9900k now it came down even if it losse will not be by much.... Well obviously the amd cpu will 'just" match the gaming perf or will win or loose marginally for tiny bit , to have a noticable difference in perfomance the 9900k has to bottleneck the 2080ti and it does not! And obviously if you care for gaming only you will not change your 9900 . But you gotta love the evolution of those argument's 2017 meh 7700k is the gaming king no need for more 2018 the 8700k is the gaming king 2 extra cores add smoothness 2018 the 9900k is the gaming king well worth the 200 extra usd for 2-15 fps on games 2019 meh the 9900k will not loose by much so no biggie ( Insert flipping table meme here)

#5674428

narukun

2019-05-29 00:13

"Intel improved 18% the IPC"... "To mitigate the 16% penalties for the vulnerabilites"... :thinking:

#5674446

Trihy

2019-05-29 01:36

There is no such thing as "recommended speed" Speeds are mostly set upon marketing or market needs. Bounds are big enough to play.

#5674521

fantaskarsef

2019-05-29 08:38

nizzen:

Im surprised anyones actually cares... People "care" just to get "likes" on forums 😛

I see you have firmly grasped that way of thinking, doing anything for "likes" on forums. But the discussion about security always has two sides: People that care and people that don't care. People that don't care should just send me their credit card and bank login data. Because security is not important.

#5674577

rl66

2019-05-29 11:35

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Intel will be releasing their own overclocking software which is able to auto-overclock individual cores. The manufacturer also announced new Xeon and vPro processors, as well as new Core X processors... Intel Talks About CPU overclocking software and is to release new Core X CPUs

Just make me laugh... their previous OC tool that come with the board (intel performance something) was unable to OC an unlocked X CPU on a friend set... it was writing that it is not an overclockable CPU (i hope they fired the coder or maybe he had already planed to go to AMD lol. ) Once uninstaled and doing it the old way it was a nice 4.8Ghz reached without doing much.

#5674579

rl66

2019-05-29 11:41

karma777police:

I agree. I said All Intel needs to do is a price adjustment, lower 9900k down to $379 and 9700k down to $329. They really do not need a new product. Zen 2 is not beating 9900k in gaming by any significant margin. Both CPUs will be on par there but again we have to see that. Intel does not have 12/24 CPU on mainstream but really they don't need one. If anything we learned that 90% of the market is not in $500 price range. AMD will have bragging rights there but does not necessary translate into high profit there. Again Intel does have 2066 socket platform where they could simply remove 8/16 core part there and lower 10/20 down to $499.

Yes, but even more people buy Pentium and I3 or Ryzen 3... Also the main sold GPU aren't RTX2080(Ti) and Vega 2 but more around 200 Euro max (more below 200)...

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fry178

2019-05-29 15:26

@karma777police lol, i guess your also leaving the main door of you place unlocked and open because you have a webcam monitoring the entrance. at least thats what i would assume seeing how a major flaw in a product is of no concern to you. you know how likely it is to have a nuclear meltdown? ONE in 1B years. yet we had only been using nuclear power for not even 40y before chernobyl happened.