Intel Has to Delay Patches for new Spectre-NG Vulnerabilities

#5544544

SpajdrEX

2018-05-07 16:45

Ok, not going to install anything related to it, so they can postpone it indefinitely 😀

#5544549

Silva

2018-05-07 16:56

What happened to the "24 hour response time and then we release the information to the public"? 😛 Making something safe is hard, but they better step up their game and release the patches already. And goodbye Intel performance lead ahahah.

#5544550

alanm

2018-05-07 16:58

[spoiler]https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KhKsq5qJAbQ/Wnww1GS8FXI/AAAAAAAAvvE/MoaiTuzZ_bUj6HSLt4rF2Lt7aHMZaUetACLcBGAs/s728-e20/spectre-intel-patch-update.png[/spoiler] Have a feeling we've not seen the last of this.

#5544560

BigMaMaInHouse

2018-05-07 18:08

LOL, Intel gave us tick and tock "upgrades" for each new gen for past 10 years, and now with each vulnerabilities patch they are goin tick and tock backwards lol. If this trend continuous- Hilbert should make "AMD FX-8370 comeback" review and it could be really funny review 🙂.

#5544562

schmidtbag

2018-05-07 18:15

Solareus Prime:

My theory : This spectre was created by the NSA. It is not only for computers but for any device with a micro-processor. The idea is to a create a ghost inside every device around the world that can be traced easily and efficiently.

This has been theorized a hundred times over. Even a decade ago it was thought that Intel was creating NSA backdoors; this is nothing new or surprising. There's no definitive proof that these vulnerabilities are related, but it's easy to assume they are. Also, not every CPU is affected by these vulnerabilities, because: 1. There are a handful of architectures that don't appear to be affected at all (such as MIPS). 2. Of the CPUs that are vulnerable, not all of them have all vulnerabilities; Intel just happens to have the most serious and easily-exploitable ones. 3. There are plenty of devices that don't have enough input control to be affected.

Intel is delaying the patch ? makes no sense, unless Intel knew directly what these vulnerabilities where for, ghosting people of interest, aka everyone.

I think it makes sense - the last time they released a patch for Spectre and Meltdown there were functionality regressions. They're making sure that what they're doing doesn't cause problems. Delaying the patch for a few days is not enough to help anybody's "ghosting" efforts.

Not to get too political, but the world should be thankingTrump right now for taking on the Shadow Government bullshit. Trump has the Shadow Government so scared it is unreal.

*facepalm* the only thing that's unreal is this "Shadow Goverment" you speak of. But let's suppose I'm wrong - why do you care? What exactly are they going to do that's of any concern to you?

#5544563

Turanis

2018-05-07 18:16

Delayed because they have nothing to put in his place.What new security holes to work with their cpus? 😀 Sky-Kaby-Coffee Lake are builted together with Windows 10.So think about the consequences working together.Mass surveillance.

#5544565

bombardier

2018-05-07 18:18

It would better change the name of the company and the brand..., ha, ha 🙂 Spectrum processor!

#5544571

Fox2232

2018-05-07 18:47

bombardier:

It would better change the name of the company and the brand..., ha, ha 🙂 Spectrum processor!

Spectral recessor?

#5544573

isti84

2018-05-07 19:09

For me the main concern is that these exploits are known for the intel hardware designers for at least 4-5 years. I cannot imagine why they did not fix these exploits. What is the cause? What was their purpose?

#5544574

XP-200

2018-05-07 19:09

Rectal processor, because i think we all feel like we have been shafted , pardon my French.

#5544575

schmidtbag

2018-05-07 19:11

XP-200:

Rectal processor, because i think we all feel like we have been shafted , pardon my French.

Now I really wish one of the exploits were called "rectum" with the slogan "a different kind of backdoor".

isti84:

For me the main concern is that these exploits are known for the intel hardware designers for at least 4-5 years. I cannot imagine why they did not fix these exploits. What is the cause? What was their purpose?

Well the performance losses would be a major reason. Considering Intel hasn't really had any significant performance-per-clock improvements since Haswell, it'd look pretty bad for them to release a new product with worse performance. And then what would they do to explain that? Security purposes? Because then that suggests previous products weren't secure. So to me, it makes sense Intel would intentionally sweep the problems under the rug and hope nobody discovers them.

#5544576

XP-200

2018-05-07 19:14

^^^Intel's new Rectal Processor, because when you want to feel like you have been shafted, make it Intel inside. 😛

#5544578

Dimitrios1983

2018-05-07 19:17

Don't worry folks, INTEL will fix this by stealing more talented AMD workers and they will pull a monopoly tactic and will be back in business.

#5544583

Turanis

2018-05-07 20:30

We laugh hard here,but the guys who take care of a data center,web server-mail,etc, they dont.They will have hard times with the Intel Xeon cpus. If Intel will mitigate AVX/2,they're doomed.

#5544587

bombardier

2018-05-07 21:19

Right! I want my money back. Lemon...

#5544606

Irenicus

2018-05-07 23:05

Solareus Prime:

My theory : This spectre was created by the NSA. It is not only for computers but for any device with a micro-processor. The idea is to a create a ghost inside every device around the world that can be traced easily and efficiently. Intel is delaying the patch ? makes no sense, unless Intel knew directly what these vulnerabilities where for, ghosting people of interest, aka everyone. Not to get too political, but the world should be thankingTrump right now for taking on the Shadow Government bullshit. Trump has the Shadow Government so scared it is unreal.

They don't need spectre. They have facebook :P

isti84:

For me the main concern is that these exploits are known for the intel hardware designers for at least 4-5 years. I cannot imagine why they did not fix these exploits. What is the cause? What was their purpose?

As with anything, things are never quite that simple

#5544611

Fox2232

2018-05-07 23:45

Turanis:

We laugh hard here,but the guys who take care of a data center,web server-mail,etc, they dont.They will have hard times with the Intel Xeon cpus. If Intel will mitigate AVX/2,they're doomed.

I am laughing, because comments here are funny. And I know exactly what's coming. I've seen effects of 1st patches and feel consequences even today... So, what coming after following patches? HW refreshes. And guess whose CPUs are going to go into those data centers? Yep, again intel. Somewhere for some smaller company there may be AMD server here and there. But in big business, you do not move to AMD as they are unable to supply required volume. So intel actually getting boost in data center revenue. At least AMD is getting small part of pie.

#5544650

Astyanax

2018-05-08 05:13

more issues that are nearly impossible to get any critical data with.

#5544653

tensai28

2018-05-08 06:24

Solareus Prime:

Not to get too political, but the world should be thankingTrump right now for taking on the Shadow Government bullshit. Trump has the Shadow Government so scared it is unreal.

America=the world? o_O

#5544678

Aura89

2018-05-08 08:29

Solareus Prime:

My theory : This spectre was created by the NSA. It is not only for computers but for any device with a micro-processor. The idea is to a create a ghost inside every device around the world that can be traced easily and efficiently. Intel is delaying the patch ? makes no sense, unless Intel knew directly what these vulnerabilities where for, ghosting people of interest, aka everyone. Not to get too political, but the world should be thankingTrump right now for taking on the Shadow Government bullshit. Trump has the Shadow Government so scared it is unreal.

My good god you need a tinfoil hat pronto