Intel Core i7-8086K anniversary edition CPU gets listed at retailers (updated)
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Fox2232
Actually it is not improved memory compatibility in chipset. It is CPU itself. Put one of those new Ryzens into your old B350 and you'll get your 3200MHz+. A lot of people found out that if they use manual OC, all new features in X470 are not needed. Then they are releasing new Agesa for old boards too.
Then there is question: "What is your 1440p/165Hz gaming system?"
Rantoc
I have a feeling this chip will show what have become of intel as of late...
It will most likely feature the crap toothpaste tim so deliding is required to truly call it an overclockable chip (You know, what you already paid for due to the 'K' overclockable premium)
If will most likely feature the known hardware security flaws like meltdown and spectre at release (yeah thats how serious intel takes us customers today - release a new chip with already known hardware flaws without fixing them first!) and all that due to sloppy engineering (IE allow it to run speculatively without first making sure its allowed to run in the first place thus allow data to bleed out through other means of data extraction)).
A true testament what happened since the good old x86 days when some of the money made its way back into the product rather than into the coffers of the share holders.
Fox2232
So, you were loling at Fury X @ 1080p while playing with 980Ti @ 1440p in other 8C/16T intel thread?
On 1080p, Fury X is still bottleneck and not Ryzen 7. And as you just wrote, that GPU you have is bottleneck for you too, so why upgrading from 4C/8T @5GHz to 6C/12T maybe @5.2GHz if lucky?
Since you claimed that all that matters is ability to show high fps in OSD and that automatically means smooth gameplay, You do not really need to pay for new platform just to get 4% higher clock. (That's unless you realize something you do not want to admit.)
And I kind of wonder about those games you play where Ryzen was not able to hit 150fps (as long as you was not bottlenecked by GPU). And what kind of fps you have with intel that you are considering mere 4% clock uplift.
Turanis
xxx Annivesary of 8086 cpu and just 6 cores cpu,no 8 cores???Shame and greedy bast....
He will have Meltdown and Spectre v4 bugs?After 6 months this 6 cores cpu will become obsolete.
Turanis
But Ryzen 2xxx dont have Meltdown,the worst.Other bugs need admin physical access. 😉
After 6 months Intel or else will launch another cpu,more powerful.
Turanis
Ok,last reply for this:
"The researchers characterise the two vulnerabilities as follows:
Meltdown breaks the most fundamental isolation between user applications and the operating system. This attack allows a program to access the memory, and thus also the secrets, of other programs and the operating system.
Spectre breaks the isolation between different applications. It allows an attacker to trick error-free programs, which follow best practices, into leaking their secrets. In fact, the safety checks of said best practices actually increase the attack surface and may make applications more susceptible to Spectre."
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12214/meltspec_575px.png
user1
meltdown is the worst bug ( as in ,the cpu is broken), but easy to work around, spectre is less dangerous since its more difficult to use (exploits the inherent weaknesses of speculative execution and as such is not really the result of the cpu being broken, affects arm,mips,x86,ppc), but it is also difficult to patch.
also even though both amd and intel cpus are vulnerable to spectre, it is harder to use spectre on amd's chips.
Andrew LB
You gotta love how every single Intel thread turns into an AMD fanboy circle ****. Interesting how you dont see the intel crowd do the same in AMD threads. But i guess that's expected when you get "almost" one victory every decade of hype and fail.
schmidtbag
Apparently you haven't been to many AMD threads, because the Intel fanatics are just as rabid.
coth
AMD having new socket every new architecture as well.
user1
"ryzenfall fallout and chimera"
those require admin access to the machine, which by that point does it even matter?
the software that presents the largest risk to spectre and meltdown for most people is the web browser, meltdown requires os level patches to mitigate, spectre only required a patch to the browser's timers, by making the timers available inaccurate , makes spectre basically impossible to use.
I dont really care if intel or amd is "superior", but the fact of the matter is that atm intel has more issues with their chips, no amount of spinning is gonna change that.
as far as the 8086k goes, definitely a novelty item, though i do wonder if it actually is binned higher than the 8700k. since the clocks arent particularly impressive.
hapkiman
It is indeed a niche item, released for those with a collectors heart, and those of us that are old enough to know the meaning behind the name without Googling it.
Interesting, and kind of cool.
Koniakki
I can see it making "sense"(strictly price wise) if it was all-core 5GHz with possibly, a 5.2-5.3GHz single core boost...?
But even then, mostly enthusiasts plus a few others, would buy it at that price, like many who buy from Silicon Lottery or Caseking or other venues selling pre-binned cpu's.
I paid €420 for the 8700K at launch 6 months ago and got lucky with a "good" chip(5GHz@1.25v or lower), so I'm interested to see how this one will fare against it.
user1
so then the question is raised, what exactly do you need administrator exploits for on an average user's computer, surely by the point a person has full administrator access , they have everything they could already want.
schmidtbag
This is really only a Windows problem. No other OS allows you to so easily run admin/root tasks so easily.
What makes these vulnerabilities so unique and threatening is the fact they can't be detected. Like las said, if they're injected into an inconspicuous binary, you wouldn't notice the effects of them.
However, I do overall agree with your point - if you already have admin/root access, why spend the time and effort figuring out how to exploit this vulnerability when you could so easily do much more damage via other means? The lack of detection might buy you more time, but nowadays everything computer related is fast enough where it's not hard to quickly get what you need. I find pretty much all of the security vulnerabilities (from any brand) that requires local admin/root access to be a non-issue.
