Updated: HWInfo Application beta Introduces Power Reporting Deviation Sensor (Cheats)
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David3k
Ryzen 2600. Not too shabby for a -0.100v undervolt, but I guess I have to restore to defaults and run the test again.
EDIT: Ambient temp is 30c, btw. Yes, I know it's hot here.
fantaskarsef
my reply from the other thread: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/explaining-the-amd-ryzen-power-reporting-deviation-metric-in-hwinfo.432667/#post-5797376
David3k
Here it is with default voltage settings.
It appears there isn't any "cheating" going on with the MSI B450 Mortar MAX, at least when using a 2600.
barbacot
It may be a questionable technique but on the other hand how much is the lifespan of the CPU reduced???
If a CPU has a lifespan in always on mode of let's say ten years this will reduce the lifespan by how much??? a month, a year, two,five???
I don't think that there are a lot of people who keep a CPU in their pc that long (10+ years and not always on) so the reduction in lifespan might be irrelevant...
fantaskarsef
Fox2232
fantaskarsef
__hollywood|meo
degradation can surface in as little as two or three years in extreme cases. its severity is dependent upon the chip leakage and the power delivery itself. at higher voltage/current draw the degradation scales up as you would expect. its only in more serious cases when procs are overvolted >15-20% when this becomes noticeable - and folks dont tend to run their OC on the razors edge of stability, but rather with a small voltage buffer. the effect is thusly further obfuscated
the question isnt whether or not we should worry about chip failure (we shouldnt, just nudge your cpu voltage after a few years if/when needed to maintain the desired frequency). the question is, are you okay with mobo manufacturers purposely configuring the power delivery to work differently than it is stated to work in the documentation and the BIOS? do you want your mobo to do exactly what you tell it to do, or are you okay with the mobo deciding to do something else and draw more power to proc, outside of spec, in a way that you dont directly control...all without telling you?
vestibule
Hmm. I have got to check this out. In the past when I have de-lid and liquid metal pasted the cpu I have seen signs of scorching on the chip surface. Tough little things. 🙂
fantaskarsef
Evildead666
My B450M Tuf Gaming-Pro and 3800X combo show ~97% CPU usage while folding, so I think this board is OK.
mgilbert
I'm running a 3700x, bone stock, on an ASRock X370 Gaming K4 with the latest BIOS. Running P95 or CB-R20, I'm getting a deviation reading of 58 to 60%. HWInfo shows the processor at about 10 watts at idle, and 65 watts under load. That's a 55 watt increase from idle to full load, and yet, the system power draw, according to my UPS, is going up by about 100 watts from idle to full load.
Just one more thing to worry about...
anub1s18
i'll need to look in to this with stock settings but with my 3900x on a asus X570 strix-e i'm seeing 80-97% deviation averaging around 92% and out of curiosity ran a cinebench which had it at a 87% deviation, now... i'm not sure if this is because i'm running actuallyhardcoreoverclocker's recommended pbo settings (also 3600mhz memory/1800mhz infinity fabric) or if things like power plan's are actually capable of affecting it. (running latest bios available 1409, which is still agesa 1.0.0.4 and not 1.0.0.5 maybe that will help).
Deckard
Asus Crosshair VI Extreme x370 BIOS 7704 (latest) AMD R7 2700x all set to Auto in BIOS apart from ram *3200 and ram voltage 1.35v
Under Cinbench full load I get Min 108.2% - max 110.9% power reporting deviation
anub1s18
sneida
asus crosshair vi hero + 3900x: minimum: 69.9%, max 141.8% -> ~70% during full utilization. this tells me what exactly then?;)
Crazy Serb
So, should we thank gigabyte for this? I have one of their boards for my 3200G and if left on auto, 3200G is getting only 1.56-1.58v. I am even more interested now what would be reported by tomahawk, but I still don't think it is worth the time for me.
mgilbert
jbmcmillan
Fox2232