High-Speed DDR5-6400 low latency CL32 Kit from G.SKILL is now available

#5987546

cucaulay malkin

2022-01-27 23:42

nizzen:

1600mhz means memorybus is @ 3200 AKA Gear 2. I wrote 6400c28 1T, in gear 2. 1T isn't gear 2 LOL

sorry I swear I read gear 1

#5987547

nizzen

2022-01-27 23:47

cucaulay malkin:

sorry I swear I read gear 1

Love from Norway <3

#5987553

cucaulay malkin

2022-01-28 00:00

nizzen:

Love from Norway <3

im not the only one who read 1:1 but okay.

#5987555

nizzen

2022-01-28 00:04

cucaulay malkin:

im not the only one who read 1:1 but okay.

People tend to read what they are thinking and believe for some reason...

#5987560

Kool64

2022-01-28 00:30

MegaFalloutFan:

This kit has insane OC potential due to low CL and already high speed

Remember when OCing used to mean save money by making it run as fast as the premium product lol. Needless to say I still don’t think it’s worth the premium.

#5987567

nizzen

2022-01-28 00:34

Kool64:

Rember when OCing used to mean save money by making it run as fast as the premium product lol. Needless to say I still don’t think it’s worth the premium.

Cheap 4800mhz hynix without heatsink and a 12400 is a killer kombo. Soon every 4800 hynix will be gone...

#5987568

Kool64

2022-01-28 00:38

nizzen:

Cheap 4800mhz hynix without heatsink and a 12400 is a killer kombo. Soon every 4800 hynix will be gone...

being on an old Zen 2 platform and having garbage Hynix AFR(was hoping it would be CJR) I regard Hynix as a “budget” chip.

#5987591

MegaFalloutFan

2022-01-28 02:04

Raider0001:

i tested 2 latest bioses beta and normal for my gigabyte board and all the solutions online point me that this modules work only with some hi-end msi its the AX5U5200C3816G-DCLABK if u have something better im waiting

What board do you have? I just checked mine Aorus Master and this kit is on official QVL list, actually it was there from day one AX5U5200C3816G-DCLA [the last two letters BK just mean black] I have the same exact kit

#5987593

MegaFalloutFan

2022-01-28 02:08

nizzen:

2 people on Ocn got that kit in hand now. Many more soon 😉 How well ddr5 is overclocking depends on time invested in it. We are still learning ddr5 😉 The tools must be there if you want to overclock 6400c32. Read; Good MB Good Cpu Knowledge Enough time testing and failing LOL More testing....

Aorus Master good enough? I had to buy because it had on board 10Gb lan and i giot 12900K, not tested it yet, will be running on custom loop, im replacing my trashy 5950x and MSI x570 Creation with this

#5987759

kakiharaFRS

2022-01-28 14:12

I see someone talking about 5200 and 4400 and I know the problem : Z690 can only (really) use 2 ram slots DO NOT BUY 4 STICKS OF DDR5 you have been warned I'm very angry by reviewers and youtubers who aren't doing their job telling us this (other than builzoid that theorized it wouldn't work properly) it is a scandal check the QVLs they are empty or list memory kits running at clocks below their sold speed....as an early adopter I tought it was just an early thing but no, it's a HUGE problem with ddr5 you are sold 4 slots motherboards but you can't use them without destroying your memory performance my tip : buy G.Skill 2x16gbs 6000 36 memory it works fine, avoid corsair kits they don't work lots of problems at boot, can't run at their advertised speeds while g.skill is plug and play...I really wanted corsair rgb memory like I always did but not if it destroys my performance and with DDR5 it did :/ p.s. please don't tell me that with expert bios tweaks you can run 4 sticks fine, nobody cares when you are sold a motherboard and memory kits you don't sign an agreement to take an advanced overclocking course 1st

#5987760

cucaulay malkin

2022-01-28 14:14

nizzen:

Cheap 4800mhz hynix without heatsink and a 12400 is a killer kombo. Soon every 4800 hynix will be gone...

can you link some from geizhals

#5987848

nizzen

2022-01-28 20:02

kakiharaFRS:

I see someone talking about 5200 and 4400 and I know the problem : Z690 can only (really) use 2 ram slots DO NOT BUY 4 STICKS OF DDR5 you have been warned I'm very angry by reviewers and youtubers who aren't doing their job telling us this (other than builzoid that theorized it wouldn't work properly) it is a scandal check the QVLs they are empty or list memory kits running at clocks below their sold speed....as an early adopter I tought it was just an early thing but no, it's a HUGE problem with ddr5 you are sold 4 slots motherboards but you can't use them without destroying your memory performance my tip : buy G.Skill 2x16gbs 6000 36 memory it works fine, avoid corsair kits they don't work lots of problems at boot, can't run at their advertised speeds while g.skill is plug and play...I really wanted corsair rgb memory like I always did but not if it destroys my performance and with DDR5 it did :/ p.s. please don't tell me that with expert bios tweaks you can run 4 sticks fine, nobody cares when you are sold a motherboard and memory kits you don't sign an agreement to take an advanced overclocking course 1st

Did you try 4x ram slots with DDR5 yourself? The BEST is to buy a kit of 4 dimms. Corsair sells some, but like on ddr4 it's slower than 2x kits 😉 There are a few on OCN that are running 5200mhz 4x dimm on Asus Hero z690, so it's possible. Knowledge and time is king 🙂 Buying x2 kits of 2x dimms and just set XMP wil almost allways fail. Atleast for kits over 4800mhz. It's a reason Corsair sells 4x ddr 5 kit with 4400mhz 😉 4x dimms require more of the memory controller and the cpu, so it needs tweaking.

#5987909

TLD LARS

2022-01-28 23:57

MegaFalloutFan:

Yeah, actually based on bencnmarks in OC DDR5 you see good results in system benchmarks and games that love fast ram, basically you only see benefit from DDR5 when you say cross 6000mhz and go higher

Do you have an example of things that scale well? Anandtech shows very bad scaling with Mem speed. Winrar is 10% boost when compressing, from 4800 CL36 to 6400 CL36 (Good but expensive boost). Decompressing does not scale well and is generally slower then a Ryzen 5950x. Blender, Cinebench and a 3d particle benchmark shows results within margin of error (less then 1%) They test games with a GTX1080 at 720P, I am going to ignore that result. Techspot shows 4% difference in work related things between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 Blender and Cinebench is still less then 1%. I am going to ignore 720p game test results. between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 1080p Battlefield V +7 FPS Borderlands 3 no difference CS GO +4 FPS Cyberpunk 2077 +1 FPS Doom Ethernal -4 FPS Farcry 5 -1 FPS Metro exodos no difference Red dead 2 +7 FPS Shadow of the tomb raider +1 FPS 1440P Red dead 2 +6 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS) 4k Red dead 2 +4 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS)

#5987934

Astyanax

2022-01-29 03:08

kakiharaFRS:

DO NOT BUY 4 STICKS OF DDR5 you have been warned

4 sticks of DDR5 can work just fine, with appropriate bios updates and interleaving configuration.

#5987954

Falkentyne

2022-01-29 06:58

kakiharaFRS:

I see someone talking about 5200 and 4400 and I know the problem : Z690 can only (really) use 2 ram slots DO NOT BUY 4 STICKS OF DDR5 you have been warned I'm very angry by reviewers and youtubers who aren't doing their job telling us this (other than builzoid that theorized it wouldn't work properly) it is a scandal check the QVLs they are empty or list memory kits running at clocks below their sold speed....as an early adopter I tought it was just an early thing but no, it's a HUGE problem with ddr5 you are sold 4 slots motherboards but you can't use them without destroying your memory performance my tip : buy G.Skill 2x16gbs 6000 36 memory it works fine, avoid corsair kits they don't work lots of problems at boot, can't run at their advertised speeds while g.skill is plug and play...I really wanted corsair rgb memory like I always did but not if it destroys my performance and with DDR5 it did :/ p.s. please don't tell me that with expert bios tweaks you can run 4 sticks fine, nobody cares when you are sold a motherboard and memory kits you don't sign an agreement to take an advanced overclocking course 1st

You can buy 4 sticks of a single kit of DDR5 no problem at all. Just don't expect them to go any higher than JEDEC. JEDEC is what Intel guarantees and the only thing 100% assured. Or did you forget what happened when people tried 4x16 GB of DUAL RANK DDR4 sticks and tried to run XMP on that? People have very, very short memories....

#5988042

pastor_marco

2022-01-29 14:37

.... and purchased. Thanks to the person who identified them as Hynix - My Samsung DDR5 6000s were holding me back. As for the welfare recipients who think DRR4 is even close to what DDR5 offers even in this early stage - well - don't forget to pick up your government cheese.

#5988043

cucaulay malkin

2022-01-29 14:44

TLD LARS:

Do you have an example of things that scale well? Anandtech shows very bad scaling with Mem speed. Winrar is 10% boost when compressing, from 4800 CL36 to 6400 CL36 (Good but expensive boost). Decompressing does not scale well and is generally slower then a Ryzen 5950x. Blender, Cinebench and a 3d particle benchmark shows results within margin of error (less then 1%) They test games with a GTX1080 at 720P, I am going to ignore that result. Techspot shows 4% difference in work related things between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 Blender and Cinebench is still less then 1%. I am going to ignore 720p game test results. between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 1080p Battlefield V +7 FPS Borderlands 3 no difference CS GO +4 FPS Cyberpunk 2077 +1 FPS Doom Ethernal -4 FPS Farcry 5 -1 FPS Metro exodos no difference Red dead 2 +7 FPS Shadow of the tomb raider +1 FPS 1440P Red dead 2 +6 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS) 4k Red dead 2 +4 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS)

https://www.purepc.pl/test-pamieci-ram-ddr5-g-skill-trident-z5-rgb-6000-mhz-cl36-z-procesorem-intel-core-i9-12900k-najszybsza-kombinacja-na-swiecie?page=0,24 1080p in cpu intensive parts of games. 5400 c38 to 6400 c36 is under 10%,around 6-7% most likely. a 3800 c15 kit will match or outperform a 5200/5400 c38 one you need at least ddr5 6000 to see any difference in general, 12600kf+ddr4 is a better pairing than 12400f+ddr5 best value: F-sku with fast ddr4 balanced option: K-sku with fast ddr4 best performance: K-sku with ddr5 over 6000MHz

pastor_marco:

.... and purchased. Thanks to the person who identified them as Hynix - My Samsung DDR5 6000s were holding me back. As for the welfare recipients who think DRR4 is even close to what DDR5 offers even in this early stage - well - don't forget to pick up your government cheese.

yeah keep telling that to yourself,it'll make the ddr5 system run even faster.

#5988144

MegaFalloutFan

2022-01-30 06:05

TLD LARS:

Do you have an example of things that scale well? Anandtech shows very bad scaling with Mem speed. Winrar is 10% boost when compressing, from 4800 CL36 to 6400 CL36 (Good but expensive boost). Decompressing does not scale well and is generally slower then a Ryzen 5950x. Blender, Cinebench and a 3d particle benchmark shows results within margin of error (less then 1%) They test games with a GTX1080 at 720P, I am going to ignore that result. Techspot shows 4% difference in work related things between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 Blender and Cinebench is still less then 1%. I am going to ignore 720p game test results. between DDR4 3600 cl16 and DDR5 6000 cl36 1080p Battlefield V +7 FPS Borderlands 3 no difference CS GO +4 FPS Cyberpunk 2077 +1 FPS Doom Ethernal -4 FPS Farcry 5 -1 FPS Metro exodos no difference Red dead 2 +7 FPS Shadow of the tomb raider +1 FPS 1440P Red dead 2 +6 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS) 4k Red dead 2 +4 FPS The other games from the 1080P list are within margin of error (less then 1 FPS)

Thats the whole point, you only see the benefit of DDR5 when you go high, we are not there yet, it has to go faster, but at least we can see that it helps overclockers has XPG Lancer review and FarCry 6 [game that scales with RAM] gained 5-6fps from OC to 5600 F1 gained 4fps from 4800 to 5600 The AIDA RAM speed benchmarks show fast read, write and copy, yeah its just numbers but its faster

#5988171

Adnan008

2022-01-30 10:41

ddr5 6400 mhz cl32 latency is basically same as ddr4 3200mhz cl16 latency, very good indeed

#5988177

cucaulay malkin

2022-01-30 11:41

Adnan008:

ddr5 6400 mhz cl32 latency is basically same as ddr4 3200mhz cl16 latency, very good indeed

it's faster,at least 10%.probably 15% it would take 4000 c16 to get close to 6400 c32,as long as you run them in gear1 of course where did you see them the same ?