HDD Sales Declined, cut in half in 2022
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anticupidon
That was written on all walls for some time.
I love HDDs, but speed and small footprint wins in the long race.
Data centres should have a word to say about that.
rl66
Right now even 2T SSD price is acceptable, HDD only resist in 4T (70 Euro vs 379 Euro) and above.
But those size are mostly for working, mean that a raid 5 or 10 of smaller units is better than a single unit.
Only huge HDD will survive a bit (when you need a raid of huge unit that doesn't exist in SSD size, like i have).
The use of SSD grow each day in those, but most of them are still hybrid SSD/HDD
geogan
Well, I look forward to the day I can buy 10TB worth of SSD storage for €100, which is what I am paying now for a semi "second-hand" 3.5" enterprise drive (coming from some data center). 10TB of SSD is still outrageously expensive mostly especially the small little NVMe form factor ones which plug into motherboard. Until then mechanical will still be needed.
JiveTurkey
4k video certainly uses a lot of space.
The Av1 codec shrinks video significantly. All gpu makers now support it for decoding and encoding.
I have already scene some 1080p blu ray films fit on a single cd (yes a 650mb CD) with 70~% quality.
As av1 catches on in "the scene," HDD makers should see a noticeable slump. Imagine a 25gb size full version of Futurama.
Ricepudding
2018 i dropped HDD's totally from all my systems and have never looked back.
Best thing i did, games programs everything is so responsive. looking forward to my new PC trying out PCIE gen4 m.2 as my current one is gen3 to see if that improves.
only issue and i wish windows did force SSD's on the new OS, cause when doing mutiplayer even though I load the fastests so many games im still stuck waiting for the slowest to load haha
JOHN30011887
Personally i wont ever be buying spinning rust again no matter how big or cheap they get.
Even my data backup is sata ssd now while os and gaming is nvme m.2 drives
schmidtbag
Data centers are probably moving away from them because even with the fastest sequential read/write speeds, they're still too slow to be of any practical use for anything that doesn't need to be archived. There aren't too many use-cases when you need oodles of temporary storage where the read/write speeds aren't a bottleneck.
EDIT:
HDDs are "okay" for archives, so long as your system can do so incrementally, as some of these drives would take an entire day (perhaps more, with the latest drives) to fill up at the fastest data rates.
Same. While I wouldn't mind using HDDs for a dedicated backup server, I don't see myself buying a modern HDD for that since most have a way higher capacity than I may ever need. It makes more sense for me to just buy an SSD at this point.
In speaking of all this, I'm actually kinda inspired to build a dedicated backup server. I could probably do a JBOD configuration with all the random HDDs I have lying around, and I've got a spare low-power motherboard+CPU that has dysfunctional USB ports (but I don't need USB for a headless storage server).
Maybe I'll get to setting this up tonight haha.
Alessio1989
too many mechanical issues and too much sensible on power-power offs, too much heavy and noisy. If they are still alive it's because we can still not find nand drivers on same price per GB
TimmyP
Still use 2xHDD in my system, 5400RPM. Also have NVME and SSD for OS and games that need them.
Only real downside is initial load. For example when I play Subnautica, if its been a few days it will take the full loading time.
Since I played yesterday though, today it will load almost as fast as initial load on SSD... Cant really explain this behavior but I think it has something to do with parts of the game remaining in memory (32gb)? I never restart or shutdown, only use s3 sleep, if that has anything to do with it.
Every game does this.
TLD LARS
I guess I am one of the few keeping spinning disks alive, I have 2x 10tb on the way.
2x 10tb WD gold enterprice 280€ = 560€
5X Cheapest NVME I can find Adata XPG Spectrix S40G 4TB 294€ = 1470€ + 43€ for PCI to 4 NVME slots.
5X sata 2.5 inch 4tb disks are more expensive then NVME and needs double sided tape to fit in the case.
stereoman
I still have one HDD in a drive caddy for backups and an External WD Black D10 8TB Game drive but everything internal is NVME or SSD, I have two game drives one is an Intel 660p 2TB NVME that's my G: Drive and the other is an MSI Spatium 1TB that one is labelled my X: Drive as it's the fast one reserved for demanding games.
RealNC
I don't even know what to buy. Right now I'm on a 1TB 970 Evo Plus.That was 140€ when I bought it. Now it's 110€, but there's 2TB SSDs out there for like 90€. Can they even be trusted to hold your data?
schmidtbag
HDDs are great for storing old games (like Xbox 360 / PS3 era games or older) or indie games since they're still super fast for load times and they're not the kinds of games you'd play often, so you can always disconnect the drive to prevent premature wear. You can fit a lot of such games on even a cheap HDD.
RealNC
There's also non-indie games that work just fine from HDD. If the game doesn't stream assets, then the only downside is longer loading times. I played through Alien Isolation from HDD, and there wasn't even a hint of stutter. (Not sure if that game does asset streaming or not.)
I only put open world games on SSD. I first try from HDD. Only if I find too long loading times do I move the game to SSD.
Undying
This is where they belong.
I dont even own sata ssds anymore. :P
https://abload.de/img/hddtrash5iim1.png
Venix
I spotted recently a 2tb patriot burst sata SSD for 90 euros ... Considering the 2 and 3 tb HDDs cost 70 or even more the small price premium is more than worth it , and a typical user would be fine with a low mid range 500gb nvm for os close to 50 euros and 2tb sata SSD for some games and storage so on low capacities up to 2tb the hhds lost their edge almost completely so it makes sense their sales slowing down .... They will be safe on 8tb + + capacities where their cost/gb advantage is HUGE!
Why not ? As far they are not some unknown brand it is fine patriot/adata/crutial(micron) /Kingston/plextor/kioxia/western digital /SanDisk they are not new in the computer space mushkin / intenso /lexar are the ones I saw products from but I have no clue if they are good or bad .
Undying
2x1tb nvmes one pcie4 on the cpu and one pcie3 on the chipset is everyone should be going for. Maybe 2x2tb if you need more storage but getting rid of the sata all together.
Glottiz
Nothing wrong with SATA SSD. They are very cheap and great replacement for storage HDDs. I have 2TB gen4 NVMe for OS/games and 8TB SATA SSD for storage (which replaced old nasty hard drives). And honestly I don't see much difference in game loading times between the two drives. 8TB NVMe is like 1800€ and 8TB SATA SSD cost me 550€, which is just fraction of the cost, and I still get pretty much all SSD benefits, minus some sequential speeds (which isn't that important for storage).
anticupidon
Not an expert. But as a tech, I had my fair share of dead HDDs, with their small board with fried SMD components.
Managed to save them, revived and extract the data. Good luck saving data from a dead SSD.
wavetrex
HDDs have stagnated or increased in price for 3 years now.
I've bought (in EU where prices are higher) my first 14 TB in late 2019 for about 250 €, and they had the occasional sale at 220'ish €.
Guess how much they are now, in 2023 ?
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07Y3KDVZH/
"Just" 285 €
And they are Surprised Pikachu that sales are low...
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Oh, and the discussion about SSD vs HDD...
Anyone owning a proper digital camera (aka, not a phone) will have something to explain about SSD vs HDD.
Not everything is about the damn games, yo !
