Guru3D PC Buyers Guide Autumn 2018

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BlueRay

2018-10-15 13:43

It's Autumn not Fall. Pls abolish the nonsensical US terminology.

#5596360

Fox2232

2018-10-15 13:58

I do mostly agree. 5-Stars. (Could not rate it.)

#5596378

schmidtbag

2018-10-15 14:41

BlueRay:

It's Autumn not Fall. Pls abolish the nonsensical US terminology.

Nonsensical? It's called "fall" because leaves fall. It's pretty straight-forward... Meanwhile, without looking it up, do you know what autumn means? Because its meaning isn't quite as ubiquitous. There are plenty of valid reasons to want to "abolish" it (and even then that's a bit excessive of a motive) but to say nonsensical is not one of them.

#5596388

BlueRay

2018-10-15 14:59

schmidtbag:

Nonsensical? It's called "fall" because leaves fall. It's pretty straight-forward... Meanwhile, without looking it up, do you know what autumn means? Because its meaning isn't quite as ubiquitous. There are plenty of valid reasons to want to "abolish" it (and even then that's a bit excessive of a motive) but to say nonsensical is not one of them.

I do know what Autumn means and where the word is coming from but this is not the place to talk about it. By the same logic Spring must be called Rise. This is a European website and as such we use English UK. Now let's enjoy this guide.

#5596391

Embra

2018-10-15 15:07

Thanks for the guide HH.

#5596396

schmidtbag

2018-10-15 15:18

BlueRay:

this is not the place to talk about it.

And yet, here you are, continuing to rant. How about next time say something constructive?

By the same logic Spring must be called Rise.

Do you not know what the word "spring" means? Because its definition is pretty close to "rise", and the season was called spring because of how plants would "spring from the ground". So yes, it is actually using similar logic.

This is a European website and as such we use English UK.

Countries outside of [former] British territories are well known to stick to one dialect of English vs another, and many European countries switch between various different ones. Why is that a problem? There is no enforced standard. We're on the internet and this is an internationally viewed website (which includes a decent population of people from Asia and the Americas, of which tend to lean toward NA English). So, take your nationalism elsewhere.

Now let's enjoy this guide.

Seeing as you completely ignored the guide the first time around and jumped straight to criticizing something that seriously doesn't matter at all, you are not in a position to make such a suggestion.

#5596397

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2018-10-15 15:24

Alright, guys let's please shift the discussion towards the actual content. Thanks.

#5596398

Fox2232

2018-10-15 15:26

schmidtbag:

And yet, here you are, continuing to rant. How about next time say something constructive? Do you not know what the word "spring" means? Because its definition is pretty close to "rise", and the season was called spring because of how plants would "spring from the ground". Countries outside of [former] British territories are well known to stick to one dialect of English vs another, and many European countries switch between various different ones. Why is that a problem? There is no enforced standard. We're on the internet and this is an internationally viewed website (which includes a decent population of people from Asia and the Americas, of which tend to lean toward NA English). So, take your nationalism elsewhere. Seeing as you completely ignored the guide the first time around and jumped straight to criticizing something that seriously doesn't matter at all, you are not in a position to make such a suggestion.

I always use En-US keyboard settings and language preference. I have allergy on En-UK keyboard. And standard Czech keyboard with special Czech keys is always combination of Base En-US and Additional Czech characters.

#5596403

RzrTrek

2018-10-15 15:33

What is Vega even doing there? It's not like you can buy it anywhere? They're all out of stock and/or overpriced (1080 Ti prices) in my country.

#5596414

Fox2232

2018-10-15 15:51

RzrTrek:

What is Vega even doing there? It's not like you can buy it anywhere? They're all out of stock and/or overpriced (1080 Ti prices) in my country.

How many of Vega 64 do you want? I can buy them for you and sell with 10% price premium. They are cheaper here than GTX 1080.

#5596430

tunejunky

2018-10-15 16:16

great job writing this guide for newbies (or people with old processors).

#5596437

StewieTech

2018-10-15 16:30

Great job boss, thanks a lot :´D

#5596441

go4brendon

2018-10-15 16:44

My only gripe with the 8700k is it not being soldered. I had to debin mine to get 20 deg shaved off of it, which is a big deal. Had I known, I would have waited for the 9700k

#5596480

XenthorX

2018-10-15 17:36

Holy crap triple fan AIO for 8700k, how much heat does this baby generate? Been on double fan H100i for my 5820K for a couple years now and it's been more than enough for me oO

#5596496

BlueRay

2018-10-15 18:19

It's really painful to read a guide today and still see GTX 10xx series as recommended. Damn them prices.

#5596497

hijodeosiris

2018-10-15 18:20

I´m quite puzzled by the fact HH recommended the Freezer 33 or Gammax 400, and I´m wondering how worser / better a Sctyhe Fuma is compared the both before. I´m running a 2600 at 4.0Ghz and that thing outputs so much damn heat that even the scythe fuma (which i read so many good reviews) performs so underwhelming, I´m alwyas runnign at 75-90°C running stress tests. Even gaming NFS Payback with all the eye candy 1440p after 2 hours hte cpu reaches 90°C with 1.425v. In one hand i have a cooler which perform way below every damn review on the internet (except el chapuzas where i found a cryorig H5 having 85° C under stress and apparently the H5 is at same or better level than Fuma) and in the other hand a CPU that cannot achieve more than 4.0 Ghz without 1.47V using just auto and LLC auto which send the voltage to the sky.

#5596545

reix2x

2018-10-15 19:59

hijodeosiris:

I´m quite puzzled by the fact HH recommended the Freezer 33 or Gammax 400, and I´m wondering how worser / better a Sctyhe Fuma is compared the both before. I´m running a 2600 at 4.0Ghz and that thing outputs so much damn heat that even the scythe fuma (which i read so many good reviews) performs so underwhelming, I´m alwyas runnign at 75-90°C running stress tests. Even gaming NFS Payback with all the eye candy 1440p after 2 hours hte cpu reaches 90°C with 1.425v. In one hand i have a cooler which perform way below every damn review on the internet (except el chapuzas where i found a cryorig H5 having 85° C under stress and apparently the H5 is at same or better level than Fuma) and in the other hand a CPU that cannot achieve more than 4.0 Ghz without 1.47V using just auto and LLC auto which send the voltage to the sky.

Well, the Sctyhe Fuma is certainly not a 27 USD heatsink, is your ambient temperature very hot? maybe you should try a new thermal compound or a liquid cooler, your voltage is pretty high

#5596548

chispy

2018-10-15 20:04

Pretty cool guide Boss , great choices.

#5596553

Aardie

2018-10-15 20:10

"SLI can result in stuttery gameplay, due to poor dual GPU implementation and bad frame times" I have had 2 x evga FTW 1070's in SLI for like 18 months and have never not to my eyes seen this at 4k and 2560. When people mention this point I always say not me ever, seriously never I do mention 2560 because I play witcher 3 with everything turned on to max all my other games at 4k

#5596584

hijodeosiris

2018-10-15 21:11

reix2x:

Well, the Sctyhe Fuma is certainly not a 27 USD heatsink, is your ambient temperature very hot? maybe you should try a new thermal compound or a liquid cooler, your voltage is pretty high

At this point I´m just completely resigned that the cooler is either really really bad or my CPU is horny as f***. I tried mounting the cpu outside the case to be 100% sure the base is making contact and enough pressure, during the night (was chill idk probably 15°C max) even reseated the cooler twice with 2 different thermal pastes and changing the direction of the cooler / fans. Both attemps gave me same results, the so called "safer" spring system is a joke, simply because the screw have a short threaded lenght and they will never go further down enough to make use of the spring system. Basically i had to screw so tight (as i would be a mechanic) the base, in order to be sure have "less" space between the base and CPU and the screws would apply more pressure, nothing changed. So I´m here with a glorified 1Kg of cooper / aluminium and stuck at 4.0Ghz because not even my CPU loves me and i got bad luck because simply will not reached 4.2Ghz unless tha auto system decide to throw 1.475V YAY!!