It's so good to see a generation with so good performance. But these prices just make it such a terrible value generation. A real shame.

Horus-Anhur:

It's so good to see a generation with so good performance. But these prices just make it such a terrible value generation. A real shame.

îts nice to see good performance at 4k, but it all depends of what kind of gaming you do. i have a 3090 and play at 2k mostly shooter game, so i already have my 240fps in the games i play, so what the goal here. im skipping this gen, it ll be the first time i skip a gen since nvidia maxwell. the 3090 is just too good to be swapped yet

I have a 4k 144hz monitor, I game at 4k and have for some time now. I will probably skip this generation for several reasons. The cards take up too many slots. They're too expensive. I don't game enough on PC right now to warrant that kind of money. And there aren't any games. Delays have made it so it's rendered this upgrade useless to me. Everything plays fine for me with what I use. When some demanding games actually make a release date maybe I'd be more interested but at this point....I see no point. Great, a game that's been out for 3 years will go from 80fps to 140fps. That doesn't do anything for me personally.

If it's still using that stupid 12-pin melty connector, I can see people avoiding it.

BLEH!:

If it's still using that stupid 12-pin melty connector, I can see people avoiding it.

It is. There are already photos of AIB cards in the wild.

It would be perfect for my 3440x1440 with max rt if it was priced like 3080 not 71% higher.

75% performance with 60% shaders of 4090. reminds me of 2080/S vs 2080Ti that were smaller dies but performance gap wasn't as large as the size would suggest. amd knew that apparently saying 7900xtx rivals not 4090 but 4080.

Let's see the RTRT numbers. Sure it can be 25% within 4090 but 1/4 less of 60 FPS 4KRTRT is 45 FPS. 3090TI is 30 FPS... so yeh "faster" but still garbage performance for the price.

cucaulay malkin:

75% performance with 60% shaders of 4090. reminds me of 2080/S vs 2080Ti that were smaller dies but performance gap wasn't as large as the size would suggest. amd knew that apparently saying 7900xtx rivals not 4090 but 4080.

4080 is clocked higher isnt it? Just like 2080S vs 2080Ti.

probably just a tiny bit.

Jawnys:

îts nice to see good performance at 4k, but it all depends of what kind of gaming you do. i have a 3090 and play at 2k mostly shooter game, so i already have my 240fps in the games i play, so what the goal here. im skipping this gen, it ll be the first time i skip a gen since nvidia maxwell. the 3090 is just too good to be swapped yet

I completely agree, a 3090 if priced right will be of great value and will last for a good while. I have 2 PCs, the AMD one (5600X) is having a 3060 12G at the moment and hooked to a 1080p display. I'm fine with the 1080p 60Hz/60Fps gaming on that. Planning on upgrading the 2nd (Intel 4790K) PC to 13th gen 13600K for 2K 144Hz gaming and most likely will get a 3090 at the time. The prices have been reducing so will see if I can grab one with a good deal. 😀 As for the NV 4000 series, from what I've seen, its too many issues for such expensive products. 😀 The new AMD ones are also looking good when compared to a 3090, if priced right and are available to get (not like the previous gen) will also be a really good option to go for.

BLEH!:

If it's still using that stupid 12-pin melty connector, I can see people avoiding it.

Believe it or not but 95% of people don't keep up with news and/or don't care 4090's still flying off the shelves, seems even though the news hit mainstream a bit more than other news its done nothing

Ricepudding:

Believe it or not but 95% of people don't keep up with news and/or don't care 4090's still flying off the shelves, seems even though the news hit mainstream a bit more than other news its done nothing

PC gamers are like drug addicts and Nvidia is their drug dealer. Price doesn't matter, defects don't matter. FOMO has kicked in - buy buy buy! This phenomena has started fairly recently. PC gamers used to be way more conscious about price and product issues.

75% of 4090 should still be +30% over 3090Ti. https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-tuf-oc-review-test/2/

I've been running 4k only since 2015, back in the day I jumped on the 1080Ti when it came out, because it was the only card that could run games in 4k. But the problem was 20-60 fps in most titles which compared to my 120Hz Gsync laptop was horrid. I've struggled for years and jumped on 4090 as soon as it came out. Despite all of the horror stories (mostly due to user errors) with the new pci power connector, and people complaining about the price, 4090 imho is the first consumer graphics card capable of 4k 120hz gaming. Yes, previous generations could do some titles on max graphics settings, but 4090 is leaps and bounds faster than ever 3xxx gen cards. I think the capabilities justify the price. It's same as if you want a 64-core CPU, it will cost a lot. People complain about prices because they used to be able to buy "the best" PC component for like $500, and now the market is a lot more mature, with prices going infinitely up based on your requirements and the wallet. I know a lot of content editors who would easily pay $5-6k for rendering speed, because in the end it equals making more money. I think all these new components and prices essentially mean people who like playing games should just buy a new $600 console once in a few years, rather than building $7-10k PC's just to play their favorite games on maximum graphics. These prices are ridiculous because the industry has shifted more into a different mode. Top of the line components are no longer for stay-at-home gamers, they are for people who generate revenue using those components and who are willing to pay any price. Same story as price difference between a regular consumer sedan and a semi-truck. Those tings cost like Rolls Royces because they generate income.

Obviously the MW2 results is just a cpu bottleneck. Without a cpu bottleneck, 4090 is 40ish % faster than the "4080", as seen in cyberpunk and tomb raider.

sovietdoc:

I've been running 4k only since 2015, back in the day I jumped on the 1080Ti when it came out, because it was the only card that could run games in 4k. But the problem was 20-60 fps in most titles which compared to my 120Hz Gsync laptop was horrid. I've struggled for years and jumped on 4090 as soon as it came out. Despite all of the horror stories (mostly due to user errors) with the new pci power connector, and people complaining about the price, 4090 imho is the first consumer graphics card capable of 4k 120hz gaming. Yes, previous generations could do some titles on max graphics settings, but 4090 is leaps and bounds faster than ever 3xxx gen cards. I think the capabilities justify the price. It's same as if you want a 64-core CPU, it will cost a lot. People complain about prices because they used to be able to buy "the best" PC component for like $500, and now the market is a lot more mature, with prices going infinitely up based on your requirements and the wallet. I know a lot of content editors who would easily pay $5-6k for rendering speed, because in the end it equals making more money. I think all these new components and prices essentially mean people who like playing games should just buy a new $600 console once in a few years, rather than building $7-10k PC's just to play their favorite games on maximum graphics. These prices are ridiculous because the industry has shifted more into a different mode. Top of the line components are no longer for stay-at-home gamers, they are for people who generate revenue using those components and who are willing to pay any price. Same story as price difference between a regular consumer sedan and a semi-truck. Those tings cost like Rolls Royces because they generate income.

Yeah 4090 is a massive leap forward, even better than when 1080Ti came out since 4090 is doubling the RT performance of 3090Ti, rasterization performance is just way off the 4K120 chart.

BLEH!:

If it's still using that stupid 12-pin melty connector, I can see people avoiding it.

These cards were made many months ago, the entire 4000 series lineup will have 12VHPWR.

Waiting for real benchmarks by Hilbert, as always. Not much more to say tbh.

sovietdoc:

I've been running 4k only since 2015, back in the day I jumped on the 1080Ti when it came out, because it was the only card that could run games in 4k. But the problem was 20-60 fps in most titles which compared to my 120Hz Gsync laptop was horrid. I've struggled for years and jumped on 4090 as soon as it came out. Despite all of the horror stories (mostly due to user errors) with the new pci power connector, and people complaining about the price, 4090 imho is the first consumer graphics card capable of 4k 120hz gaming. Yes, previous generations could do some titles on max graphics settings, but 4090 is leaps and bounds faster than ever 3xxx gen cards. I think the capabilities justify the price. It's same as if you want a 64-core CPU, it will cost a lot. People complain about prices because they used to be able to buy "the best" PC component for like $500, and now the market is a lot more mature, with prices going infinitely up based on your requirements and the wallet. I know a lot of content editors who would easily pay $5-6k for rendering speed, because in the end it equals making more money. I think all these new components and prices essentially mean people who like playing games should just buy a new $600 console once in a few years, rather than building $7-10k PC's just to play their favorite games on maximum graphics. These prices are ridiculous because the industry has shifted more into a different mode. Top of the line components are no longer for stay-at-home gamers, they are for people who generate revenue using those components and who are willing to pay any price. Same story as price difference between a regular consumer sedan and a semi-truck. Those tings cost like Rolls Royces because they generate income.

No one was really complaining about the 4090, it wasn't much more than the 3090 when it came out, or comparatively the titans in the past vs the 80 series. But the 3080 was 40% of the price of the 3090 and now the 4080 is 70% of the price of the 4090. That's what people don't like. People could generate income on the 3080s as well, that's not the whole story.