GeForce RTX 4080 benchmarks reveal it to be just 25% slower than 4090

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#6071010
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At this price it does not make sense , as the price range is the USA goes fron $1,200 - $1,589 depending on the bling bling and OC versions. Might as well go the full 4090 for $1,600 in my opinion.
#6071015
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25% slower and 25% cheaper. Contrary to what some would suggest, this does not add up. Bigger dies are disproportionately more expensive because you're basically paying for scarcity and less yield per wafer (regardless of whether all usable dies are in perfect condition). If the 4080 were 25% smaller, that would suggest the price is too high, but it's actually more than 25% smaller. Add to the fact it's not the flagship, and it really gets you to wonder why it's priced the way it is. So, I think it's pretty definitive that this GPU is priced wrong.
#6071017
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Glottiz:

PC gamers are like drug addicts and Nvidia is their drug dealer. Price doesn't matter, defects don't matter. FOMO has kicked in - buy buy buy! This phenomena has started fairly recently. PC gamers used to be way more conscious about price and product issues.
100% agree, prices have sky rocketed, quality of the products has been so so, especially from certain brands, scalpers everywhere... I remember when the 7970 came out... I could just buy it, crazy right! back then a top of the line card AIO cost me £500, I do miss you my xfx double fan 7970 you did me well for a long time.
#6071028
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680 $499 780 $649 980 $549 1080 $599 2080 $699 3080 $699 4080 $1199 I have nothing else to say...
#6071043
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anthos:

680 $499 780 $649 980 $549 1080 $599 2080 $699 3080 $699 4080 $1199 I have nothing else to say...
Price per transistor scales down less and less with each shrink. If you want increased performance, this is the reality we're living in. Nvidia has tried to hang back on older nodes to help keep prices down, but it could only realistically do that for so long with AMD finally starting to catch up on perf/watt.
#6071044
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I just believe people will have no choice than getting used to everything costing more and more, or companies will have to lower expectations. Ressource scarcity and increasing energy prices are just at their beginning. Natural Oil is running dry, forcing us to transition to insanely harder and more expensive to extract tight oil, copper mining is running dry.. all ressource are running dry. Pretty sure we'll have some global collapse before 2040. https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/mining-sector-s-failure-to-seek-new-copper-jeopardizes-entire-energy-transition-71798330
#6071046
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Serotonin:

I have a 4k 144hz monitor, I game at 4k and have for some time now. I will probably skip this generation for several reasons. The cards take up too many slots. They're too expensive. I don't game enough on PC right now to warrant that kind of money. And there aren't any games. Delays have made it so it's rendered this upgrade useless to me. Everything plays fine for me with what I use. When some demanding games actually make a release date maybe I'd be more interested but at this point....I see no point. Great, a game that's been out for 3 years will go from 80fps to 140fps. That doesn't do anything for me personally.
What card are you using now?
#6071048
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I already picked up a 3090ti a few months ago. I'm good til the 50 series.. But, they need to get their shit together and stop this graphic card BS! They need to put more cards out for people like they used to. Overwhelm the scalpers so they can't scalp!
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ttnuagmada:

Price per transistor scales down less and less with each shrink. If you want increased performance, this is the reality we're living in. Nvidia has tried to hang back on older nodes to help keep prices down, but it could only realistically do that for so long with AMD finally starting to catch up on perf/watt.
Scales down is one thing and plummeting off a cliff over a single generation is another. A typical 10-15% price increase turned to 70%. That is pure greed plain and simple.
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anthos:

Scales down is one thing and plummeting off a cliff over a single generation is another. A typical 10-15% price increase turned to 70%. That is pure greed plain and simple.
They effectively jumped 2.5 nodes. Add inflation into the mix and this is where we are.
#6071054
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goat1:

What card are you using now?
3080ti
#6071055
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Too expensive for what it offers, people are better shelling out the price difference and getting a 4090. This card should be price between 600 and 800€. The good news is that the next year, this card is going to the be the "new" 5070 and cost half of what they are asking now.
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H83:

Too expensive for what it offers, people are better shelling out the price difference and getting a 4090. This card should be price between 600 and 800€. The good news is that the next year, this card is going to the be the "new" 5070 and cost half of what they are asking now.
* in 2 years 😉
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ttnuagmada:

They effectively jumped 2.5 nodes. Add inflation into the mix and this is where we are.
3090 to 4090 the price increase is 6,6% 3080 to 4080 the price increase is 70% Cumulative inflation over the past 2 years is 15%. Far far cry from justifying such a price hike.
#6071080
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TheDeeGee:

These cards were made many months ago, the entire 4000 series lineup will have 12VHPWR.
Then there will be a lot of RMAs, and probably a class-action...
#6071081
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JamesSneed:

It is. There are already photos of AIB cards in the wild.
More fool the buyers...
#6071089
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I use a SFF build so always curious. So far not many SFX PSU's out there that can handle the 4090. So I'd be interested in a lesser option. Can always up later on, if things change.
#6071121
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all those shaders and other units in the 4090 are probably a bit starved for memory bandwidth, even with that 96MB L2 cache, so the 4080 punches above its weight. It's similar to how the 12GB 3080 was often super close to the 3080 Ti - the latter's extra units were starved for memory bandwidth. Oh and of course, the 4090 still tends to get CPU-limited, even at 4K in some cases
#6071143
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I can afford it and may buy the 4090 but shit. Nowhere has them in stock. Same shit as 2 years ago. I'll wait a year and see what stock there is. My 3080 OC ain't no slouch.
#6071171
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BLEH!:

Then there will be a lot of RMAs, and probably a class-action...
I don't see why...there were isolated incidents normal if you think that it is a new tech. There is some kind of hysteria on the net nowadays with launch of new products: AMD launched the 7000 series and everybody was like: "O my god 95 degrees on the CPU!!! it will melt the motherboard, it will destroy itself" - nothing like this. The same with Nvidia:" It will burn houses, destroy neighborhoods!"...I also see that all the cards in question had been replaced no questions asked and it did not happened again. https://i.imgur.com/qfcv796.jpg

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