Nah. Gona skip anything above 250watts . I see we are going back to Fermi era. What i care right now is perf/watt. As perf/$ is irrelevant as price doesn't exist anymore.....

Krizby:

Let hope the crypto bubble burst soon and we will have cheap GPUs flooding the market 😀

We've been hoping this to happen since the first gpu shortage, but no, it's only getting stronger. But really, I'm still hoping for that to happen anytime soon, the sooner the better.

Krizby:

Let hope the crypto bubble burst soon and we will have cheap GPUs flooding the market 😀

Honestly Id rather hope nvidia does a better job at making gpus unusable for mining, so I can sell my unlocked 30 series to miners and use that money to buy a 4080 😛 But crypto bubble bursting is probably more likely to happen than nvidia doing a better job.

darah:

Honestly Id rather hope nvidia does a better job at making gpus unusable for mining, so I can sell my unlocked 30 series to miners and use that money to buy a 4080 😛 But crypto bubble bursting is probably more likely to happen than nvidia doing a better job.

the question is how much reaaaaaaally can they lock down their cards ? i mean in the end of the day they need to do calculations for the games or blender etc ... and if they lock it for 10 coins auto detection or something there are a gazillion others that keep popping .

Mining isnt the only thing impacting GPU availability. Insufficient chip production is the main one.

Venix:

the question is how much reaaaaaaally can they lock down their cards ? i mean in the end of the day they need to do calculations for the games or blender etc ... and if they lock it for 10 coins auto detection or something there are a gazillion others that keep popping .

Yeah but majority of coins run on just a handful of algorithms, it actually wouldnt be any problem for nvidia/ati to shut down gpu mining but what would be the point of that from their perspective? LHR is just a PR stunt that actually encourages buying more cards by miners to get to the same mining performance lol. They cut out 50% of mining power (which you can actually boost back to around 70% with some software hacks) and only for ETH algorithm which relies mainly on memory usage and performance, you can still mine another coin on the gpus processor itself to make up the difference. Also, LHR cards have no diferent gaming performance than non LHR, they arent gimped in hw but software for certain use. So, yeah, they can shut down mining altogether if they wanted to but again, there is no point in that.

1.) That would be awesome if the miners get screwed over with warranty work find a way for Nvidia and AMD to legally do it due from the manner of how it's used in very small small small print. 2.) Find a way to brick or render them useless. 3.) Give Hillary Clinton a framing hammer and let her do what she does best........................................ ;-) Sorry I'm shot it's like 3am.

Meh. I just want a fair priced gpu again.. is that so much to ask? Nvidia stop being such a greed machine all of the sudden. It's like gpus now are a luxury or some bs xD Here I was back in 2020 thinking 3070rtx for 500e was a lot.. never mind 3080rtx for 800e.

they should just delay the release of these cards at this point since they still sell everything they can make and all these cards will do at this point is make mining more profitable and continue to screw over gamers.

In my humble opinion I truly think the power draw is clear evidence of higher mining efficiency. Of course these cards will give us better gaming yields but the Crypto Currency miners will be all over this tech. AMD and Nvidia made a killing off of this base. The 3rd party producers made huge profits as well. This makes me wonder if we're going to see a trend of gamers being one generation behind going forward? Prime example. Many gamers could not get their hands on a 3000 series GPU but when the 4000 series becomes available for miners, this will free up some Ampere cards to purchase. Nvidia and AIB's may keep manufacturing 3000 series after the release of 4000 series cards. Many gamers are eager to upgrade and may settle for the ampere tech due to the Lovelace cards being gobbled up by miners. The same goes for AMD many people could not get their hands on a 6000 series GPU at MSRP or a respectable price. I'm not a negative Ned or a conspiracy theorist. I'm just using my common sense. If this trend of shortages continues, I truly can't see how the gaming industry is going to flourish. Many programmers are still working from home, Console shortages, Gpu shortages etc etc. Could we see another 1983 through 1985 happening? This could happen just out of pure frustration and consumers saying screw the game industry. Just a thought.

@TheDigitalJedi thing is even the 2xxx and 3xxx series when the 4xxx series get released , if they are still profitable to run there is no reason for miners to not keep em going , for the cards to be ditched will have to stop being profitable.... Difficulty rising eventually will do that but as far the price of crypto keeps outpacing the difficulty rise on the average .... It is making em even more profitable 😏, even if the crypto bubble does not have a sudden burst but a slow over time deflation to normalisation eventually it will happen ... Or ideally there will be a new crash and overnight mining on a gpu will loosing miners money 😛

TheDigitalJedi:

In my humble opinion I truly think the power draw is clear evidence of higher mining efficiency. Of course these cards will give us better gaming yields but the Crypto Currency miners will be all over this tech. AMD and Nvidia made a killing off of this base. The 3rd party producers made huge profits as well. This makes me wonder if we're going to see a trend of gamers being one generation behind going forward? Prime example. Many gamers could not get their hands on a 3000 series GPU but when the 4000 series becomes available for miners, this will free up some Ampere cards to purchase. Nvidia and AIB's may keep manufacturing 3000 series after the release of 4000 series cards. Many gamers are eager to upgrade and may settle for the ampere tech due to the Lovelace cards being gobbled up by miners. The same goes for AMD many people could not get their hands on a 6000 series GPU at MSRP or a respectable price. I'm not a negative Ned or a conspiracy theorist. I'm just using my common sense. If this trend of shortages continues, I truly can't see how the gaming industry is going to flourish. Many programmers are still working from home, Console shortages, Gpu shortages etc etc. Could we see another 1983 through 1985 happening? This could happen just out of pure frustration and consumers saying screw the game industry. Just a thought.

Would be awesome if Nvidia nerf mining so hard on Lovelace that they are less profittable than Ampere, that means Nvidia will continue to produce Ampere and sell them as CMP and reserve Lovelace for gamers.

Hampered compute on $1000+ parts should not be something to celebrate honestly. I have never even mined in my life, but I would be really annoyed if my 3090 was LHR.

PrMinisterGR:

Hampered compute on $1000+ parts should not be something to celebrate honestly. I have never even mined in my life, but I would be really annoyed if my 3090 was LHR.

Well between a 2000usd LHR version and a 4000usd FHR, I would pick the 4090 LHR 😀