Remember guys... it's just a phenomenon. 😕

JamesSneed:

Nvidia had issues with meeting demand for the 2xxx series so this time they gave there self one month less time. I personally think Nvidia screwed themselves just trying to one up AMD and launching first. The reality is Nvidia should have given themselves 2 - 2.5 months of stock built up then launched not just one month. Even then they likely would have supply issues but mild ones. I really doubt AMD will have similar supply issues with Zen3 or RDNA2.

I don't really think it makes a difference with the timeframes you're talking about. There is a massive supply hump they need to overcome and launching the cards 2 months later isn't going to give them the supply to do that, their CEO is saying it won't be rectified until next year, so 3-4 months may not have done that. As you said the shortages would be more mild probably, visibly at least they would (because it would seem like a ton of people got 3080s suddenly), but if 500,000 people want a 3080 and they can only make 100,000 a month - you're still going to have 300,000 pissed off people whether you wait to two months to launch or not. I personally don't think it's worth waiting, it's all a perception issue. I'd rather some lucky gamer nerd, botter, etc get the cards two months in advance then have to wait because it looks nicer that more people get a card on christmas morning. Presumably it's better for Nvidia as well because it generates hype ahead of your competitors launch and takes some of the wind out of their sales. It looks bad now but in 3-4 months when stock actually returns to normal and people can actively get the card, no one is going care. 1080 launch was just as bad (because of miners mostly), if not worse and no one talks about it anymore. It's a distant memory. Hopefully the botter problem gets solved for the most part and they add some backorder/queue system or lottery like people are suggesting. Other then that I think it's fine to launch when they did.

Take a good look at that Danish shop again. Not a single FE edition anywhere to be seen. Here in Denmark there has been 0 FE edition, and AFAIK we can't even pre-order a RTX 3080 Founders Edition nor a RTX 3090 Founders Edition, only from 3th companies. I am from Denmark, and I want to be able to buy a RTX 3080/3090 Founders Edition!!!

Denial:

I don't really think it makes a difference with the timeframes you're talking about. There is a massive supply hump they need to overcome and launching the cards 2 months later isn't going to give them the supply to do that, their CEO is saying it won't be rectified until next year, so 3-4 months may not have done that. As you said the shortages would be more mild probably, visibly at least they would (because it would seem like a ton of people got 3080s suddenly), but if 500,000 people want a 3080 and they can only make 100,000 a month - you're still going to have 300,000 pissed off people whether you wait to two months to launch or not. I personally don't think it's worth waiting, it's all a perception issue. I'd rather some lucky gamer nerd, botter, etc get the cards two months in advance then have to wait because it looks nicer that more people get a card on christmas morning. Presumably it's better for Nvidia as well because it generates hype ahead of your competitors launch and takes some of the wind out of their sales. It looks bad now but in 3-4 months when stock actually returns to normal and people can actively get the card, no one is going care. 1080 launch was just as bad (because of miners mostly), if not worse and no one talks about it anymore. It's a distant memory. Hopefully the botter problem gets solved for the most part and they add some backorder/queue system or lottery like people are suggesting. Other then that I think it's fine to launch when they did.

Certainly Jensen is in agreement with you since he decided to launch with only 1 month of FE stock and the AIB's didn't even have that much time. We shall see I think Its going to make people be more sensible and see what AMD has more on merit of price/performance if stocks are still low in November/December. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

illrigger:

Paper implies no stock was ever delivered. The 3080 driving the monitor I am typing this on, purchased from Newegg by clicking the order now button, proves that wrong. They launched without enough stock to meet demands and knew as much - that's probably true. But a paper launch, this was not.

Its so good you didn't update your profile, or remove that brown stain from your nose. Regardless of how you want to describe this, everyone else agrees this was a paper launch, there is no stock other than a couple of early ctrl f5 adopters

Jen-Hsun Huang seems to actually bake those cards by himself 😀 one thing is for sure. AMD can't be worse 😉

panogr:

Jen-Hsun Huang seems to actually bake those cards by himself 😀 one thing is for sure. AMD can't be worse 😉

2020 has proved anything is possible. 😉

AMD could paper launch and still have more cards 😛

I cancelled my order for 3 3080s due to their failure to deliver the cards on time as promised. I had a delivery guarantee with a tracking number; they did not ship them. At least I have a huge credit due to their failure to fulfill the contract in addition to a full refund. Maybe someday I will use it if nvidia can ever produce product to sell. AMD will convert a significant amount of nvidia users if they have product to sell come launch day. I am going AMD this time. Nvidia in my opinion is heading for Chapter 11 reorganization. Not having product slaps at financial issues with the suppliers. I returned the one I got from Microcenter on launch day due to it sounding like it was going to explode from the coil whine; 80dba of coil whine is a non starter. Never got the chance to test to see if the new drivers fixed the inexcusable crashing to desktop issues.

I might as well just wait for 4080 then i might be able to get the gfx card i want....

This seems to confirm that Nvidia rushed the release of the 3000 cards and that the process from Samsung must be really terrible.

"There's no production issues, there's a demand issues, it's a phenomenom to observe" I would have bought that, until i saw those charts. There's clearly no card.

Once a Shady, always Shady.. Only 10 in stock?! 80M+ Country.. And check prices... https://i.imgur.com/Jxot3Rf.png

Sylencer:

Still hoping every day that my retailer gets my ordered 3090 strix oc to ship it.

I know how it feels. Take it as a blessing in disguise. Who knows.

ITGuru:

Same here mate in Australia, identical scenario...i also want the standard FE, it is about 200-300 cheaper and most of the time actually better than the custom cards in both clock speeds and cooling.

The FE cards were Mwave exclusive in Australia. So trying to get a FE that's limited to one retailer is going to be even harder... https://www.mwave.com.au/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb-gddr6x-founders-edition-video-card-ac38220

ACEB:

Its so good you didn't update your profile, or remove that brown stain from your nose. Regardless of how you want to describe this, everyone else agrees this was a paper launch, there is no stock other than a couple of early ctrl f5 adopters

Wow, bitter, jealous and a jerk, the trifecta! I got lucky, Newegg posted some cards by mistake the day before the official launch and I was online at the moment they did. By the time I hit buy and closed out the sale, they were gone again. As far as paper launches, that's what people who didn't manage to get a card/CPU always call it when this happens. You can search for the term and find people whining about CPU and GPU shortages at launch literally every year all the way back to 2003. So I guess by those standards literally every product launch is a "paper launch". Or, y'know, there's always a shortage of every big launch.

Burgurne:

Take a good look at that Danish shop again. Not a single FE edition anywhere to be seen. Here in Denmark there has been 0 FE edition, and AFAIK we can't even pre-order a RTX 3080 Founders Edition nor a RTX 3090 Founders Edition, only from 3th companies. I am from Denmark, and I want to be able to buy a RTX 3080/3090 Founders Edition!!!

https://www.nvidia.com/da-dk/geforce/buy/ Værsgod.

Got my Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC yesterday. All I can say is that I was lucky, my pre-order got stuck during checkout back on september 17th, but I was in a line they said, the store where I bought it from managed somehow to get me a card and I got it yesterday, I live in Norway btw. The card is pretty damn cool, allthough the fan speed which can get to 70 % audiable and I couldn't put a custom fan profile with MSI afterburner. Not sure why. I dont know if Gigabyte has any similar software. But at 55-60% fan you cant hear the card and it stays at 60-68 degrees C on full load at 4K gaming. On 1440p the card is litterally cool as 48 degrees C. 4K is a different game and pushes the card between 60-68 degrees C. The cooler is massive and does a great job, but the sound of the fan at 70+ % is IMO a little loud. But man.. The performance is sick, all games I have tested in 4K ran at least on 60fps everything maxed out. I locked it using Vsync at 60fps which I normally do until I get my hands on a OLED CX TV/MONITOR which does support G-Sync, HDMI 2.1 and 120Hz at 4K to eliminate tearing and lower the input lag. This is running with my old 4790K@4.8Ghz on all 4 cores. But this test is with HAGS enabled. There appears to be some stutter in some games which drops to 57-60 fps, it is not constant stutter just randomly. I guess its either because of my cpu is on the limit to keep and give steady frames or due to HAGS enabled or just poorly optimized game like HZD, Marvels Avengers. But as I told you in a another thread I will upgrade to AMD 5000 series as soon as they release. I only upgrade my whole PC once every 5 years or so. So I excpect alot better performance after that. I can tell you the card is literally twice as fast as my previous MSI 1080TI. Just sick performance and it goes where I was not able to go before. the magic 4K60fps everything maxed out, so no wonder these cards are in huge demand. But It is also due to the corona virus situation. Many factories are disabled or produce at half the speed or at a lower pace..

How ironic, Proshop is the exact shop that i ordered the 3090 strix oc from... and i was 3 hours late to the preorder party... so i can hereby conclude, that it will take a loooooooong time before i get my 3090 strix oc -_-'

Waits for 4 months finally gets RTX 3080 use for 6 months and new gpu announcement 🙁