GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders review

D3M1G0D

2018-09-19 15:50

Nice review. Good to finally see some real numbers, after weeks of speculation. The 2080 Ti seems to provide a nice jump over the 1080 Ti in most cases (although nowhere close to justifying the price) but the 2080 is a disappointment. This basically confirms what I've been thinking since Turing was announced: you should be buying the 20-series cards for the new technology (RTX), not for traditional rendering. DLSS should be decent tech for those titles that support it, and ray-tracing should be interesting for those who care about lighting. Overall though, not very exciting products.

Netherwind:

2080Ti is a must for 4K users and maybe UW 1440p but not for the rest of the crowd.

I'm a 4K gamer, but I'm in no rush to buy a 2080 Ti. The performance simply doesn't justify the price.

#5586424

vbetts

Moderator

2018-09-19 15:50

So no rtx on memes....

#5586425

sverek

2018-09-19 15:56

vbetts:

So no rtx on memes....

Guru3D need to step up on memes.

#5586427

Valken

2018-09-19 15:58

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Really? looks pretty good here. it was recorded at 80 mbit @ 3840x2160. Internet connection slow?

Hi Hilbert, I have 30 Mbits...I can streamed at 1080p via SVPTube so technically, the videos should be downsampled and should look GOOD! 😀 I will use an offline d/l'er for the full 4K file and watch it again but there were compression artifacts in the stream. Also, I noticed the two DLSS streams had a few more hiccups than the TAA streams? Seems TAA was more consistent. This was according to the FPS monitor on the top right.

#5586428

BReal85

2018-09-19 16:00

D3M1G0D:

Nice review. Good to finally see some real numbers, after weeks of speculation. The 2080 Ti seems to provide a nice jump over the 1080 Ti in most cases (although nowhere close to justifying the price) but the 2080 is a disappointment. This basically confirms what I've been thinking since Turing was announced: you should be buying the 20-series cards for the new technology (RTX), not for traditional rendering. DLSS should be decent tech for those titles that support it, and ray-tracing should be interesting for those who care about lighting. Overall though, not very exciting products. I'm a 4K gamer, but I'm in no rush to buy a 2080 Ti. The performance simply doesn't justify the price.

How can you call the 2080Ti a nice jump over the 1080Ti when it doesn't even reach 40% on average. This is less than half the increase the 1080Ti had over the 980Ti. And do not forget that the game system requirements will also rise, just check AC Origins for example, a 1070 cannot keep 60 fps in FHD when it was called a 1440P by the reviews.

#5586431

-Tj-

2018-09-19 16:00

Paulo Narciso:

Where's the guy saying that 2070 is faster than a 1080 ti ? 🙂

My thoughts exactly. Was about to troll him but meh not worth it lol 2080rtx ok'ish card, but not worth the price.. dont get me started on 2080ti price and what it offers in return. Also 2080ti fe is one loud mofo.. 290x territory loud and that bitch was loud lol, fail. Edit: msi Trio fails too, temp wise.. only asus strix delivered.

#5586435

kings

2018-09-19 16:02

The problem is the lack of alternatives and Nvidia know this. No one can buy an imaginary AMD card. A person who wants something better than a GTX 1080/Vega 64 (for whatever the reason), there's nothing besides Nvidia.

#5586438

BReal85

2018-09-19 16:07

kings:

The problem is the lack of alternatives and Nvidia know this. No one can buy an imaginary AMD card. A person who wants something better than a GTX 1080/Vega 64 (for whatever the reason), don´t have nothing besides Nvidia.

How many of the gamers buy a 1080Ti-ish card? According to Steam, it's 1,5%. Let's that it's 2-3% in real life. Most people buy 1050Ti-1060-1070, all for which AMD has an alternative.

#5586439

buhehe

2018-09-19 16:08

This series would be alright if it wasn't for the insane pricing. If you consider a 2080 over a 1080ti: Costs some 100-150 USD more Performs about the same or slightly better Supports DLSS which is nice, but how widely will it be adopted? Supports DRX but how bad will performance be? Loses 3GB VRAM After 1.5 years this is just not enough... not at these insane prices. Hard pass on this series for me; I'll stay on my 290 and see if AMD wakes up (or prices are severely cut)

#5586440

wavetrex

2018-09-19 16:08

Sorry but all I can comment right now is... HAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Edit: Now that I stopped laughing, the reason for the laugh: The only card that does make a bit of sense in this release is the 2080 Ti, for the low introductory price of ... both of your kidneys. Seriously, whoever priced these things at Nvidia must have smoked something really, really strong. 25-35% extra performance for almost DOUBLE the price compared to 1080 Ti ? Oh, and when you overclock both cards to near 2Ghz, the difference gets even smaller. The 2080 without the Ti and 2070 make no sense whatsoever. Srsly nV dudes, stop smokin' that sh*et!

#5586442

Netherwind

2018-09-19 16:10

D3M1G0D:

I'm a 4K gamer, but I'm in no rush to buy a 2080 Ti. The performance simply doesn't justify the price.

You're sporting 1080Ti SLI so if you've backed that up with a good CPU then you don't have anything to worry about. If the game has good scaling your setup will beat a 2080Ti any day.

#5586444

XenthorX

2018-09-19 16:12

Wow, Hilbert you got the RTX Star Wars demo?! i shall receive my 2080-ti next week, any chance the demo will be downloadable by then ? 😀

#5586445

Dragam1337

2018-09-19 16:13

Valken:

Hi Hilbert, I have 30 Mbits...I can streamed at 1080p via SVPTube so technically, the videos should be downsampled and should look GOOD! 😀 I will use an offline d/l'er for the full 4K file and watch it again but there were compression artifacts in the stream. Also, I noticed the two DLSS streams had a few more hiccups than the TAA streams? Seems TAA was more consistent. This was according to the FPS monitor on the top right.

Yeah, DLSS had alot more unstable framtimes, with quite alot of spikes. And aside of that, DLSS just looks like it's being upscaled from a lower res, using taa, and a fancy sharpening filter.

#5586446

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2018-09-19 16:15

XenthorX:

Wow, Hilbert you got the RTX Star Wars demo?! i shall receive my 2080-ti next week, any chance the demo will be downloadable by then ?

Oh mate, I have no clue .... that's NV's call to make.

#5586448

shymi

2018-09-19 16:16

As always - great in depth review. I have to soon upgrade my system, but will skip this gen. US MSRPs are too high(in Europe they'll be even worse) and in my view are not justified by the performance increase(especially after 1.5 - 2 year wait for 20xx series).

#5586449

kings

2018-09-19 16:17

BReal85:

How many of the gamers buy a 1080Ti-ish card? According to Steam, it's 1,5%. Let's that it's 2-3% in real life. Most people buy 1050Ti-1060-1070, all for which AMD has an alternative.

Who talked about other segments? Please read more carefully. There´s a reason why other Nvidia cards have competitive prices and these RTX do not. The lack of alternatives, it´s a fact! Who buys what, is not in question here!

#5586455

LuckyNumber8

2018-09-19 16:23

Well there are some games like wolfenstein 2 with REALLY impressive results, but in majority of these games results are underwhelming if you consider insane 1200$ price. But I have to say these DLSS results looks really amazing, much better performance (especially in infiltrator) and IMO stellar picture quality unlike TAA. Even on YT highly compressed video Hilbert uploaded I can tell a very clear difference in sharpness. If DLSS will be supported in every big game I would buy turing for that feature alone. And here's some DLAA vs TAA screenshots comparison https://pclab.pl/art78828-21.html TAA looks very blurry compared to DLSS in that finall fantasy demo. Also RTX performance is very surprising, I thought that star wars tech demo will run at 24fps and 1080p at best, so 30+ at 4K sounds much better than I was expecting. Just imagine new gen consoles with 30fps games and graphics quality like that. BTW- I'm guessing new shading features will be supported only in future games, so one year from now I'm expecting another 20% performance increase.

#5586456

D3M1G0D

2018-09-19 16:24

BReal85:

How can you call the 2080Ti a nice jump over the 1080Ti when it doesn't even reach 40% on average. This is less than half the increase the 1080Ti had over the 980Ti. And do not forget that the game system requirements will also rise, just check AC Origins for example, a 1070 cannot keep 60 fps in FHD when it was called a 1440P by the reviews.

I was being kind 🙂. And to be fair, Pascal was an unusually large jump and had the benefit of a much smaller node (28nm -> 16/14nm). As I said, nobody should be buying the 20-series cards for traditional rendering, only for the newer tech.

#5586459

schmidtbag

2018-09-19 16:26

Am I the only one here who doesn't find this disappointing, underwhelming, funny, etc? Sure, it's severely overpriced and I currently have no interest in raytracing (I'm sure eventually I'll care), but the 2080 Ti is a distinctly very good for 4K gaming. Also, performance-per-watt is pretty appealing. Also, I think there's some optimization issues for the 2080. Sometimes it seems to be right behind the 2080 Ti while at other times it barely seems to be keeping up with the 1080. It still performs well no matter what, but clearly there needs to be some driver optimizations.

#5586464

Evildead666

2018-09-19 16:35

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Really? looks pretty good here. it was recorded at 80 mbit @ 3840x2160. Internet connection slow?

I'm pretty sure Youtube re-encodes the file to its own Video Codec, VP9 iirc, and they will probably drop the bitrate down from 80Mbits. You could set up a Torrent (a legal one) with the original video you made ? At least then you would be sure that the people are seeing the real thing 😉 I have trouble watching at 480p with my great 1.5Mbps line..................