G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Up to DDR4 3200 MHz

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Nice specs on these, and with voltages like DDR3L, impressive ! Too bad they choose those ridiculous heatsinks every single time. This time they seem to take the Ripjaws name seriously, you could almost use these as a barbwire fence 😀
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16-16-16-36? Those timings are brutal. Is that going to be the standard for DDR4-3200?
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Yes, high timings at high clock speeds. It happened with DDR2 and DDR3 too. This doesn't mean the RAM is slower per sé: DDR3-2133 - CAS 12 - 1st Word 10 ns DDR4-3200 - CAS 16 - 1st Word 10 ns While DDR3-2133 is more common at CAS 9, this is just the first batches of a just-released product for a new standard, those DDR3-2133 9-9-9 didn't release in the first month, it was actually 3 years after DDR3 started appearing on high-end hardware. Also, don't forget memory bandwidth and transfer rate is still important for the total performance metric too. So don't worry, DDR4 will still be faster.
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Now DDR4 shows where it's going with 3200 on XMP... probably more with custom tuning and a bit of luck. This will seriously whipe the floors with DDR3. If only the price would be similar...
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Now this is the kind of DDR4 we need. Now we only need some AMD APUs and FX CPUs who can leverage these beats.
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1.35 V for the high speed ones, ouch! Won't that risk frying the IMC?
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1.35V is OK for the IMC. They will accept 1.2-1.35V for DDR4 iirc. The way I see it, DDR4-3200 is akin to DDR3-1600/DDR2-800/DDR-400/SDR-200MHz DDR4 is now 16 data cycles every clock. We should have DDR4-4266 and higher at some point...Where's the limit ? 🙂 It would be pretty hard, if not impossible, to test the real-world benefits of going from DDR2 to DDR3 to DDR4, since you wouldn't be able to test with exactly the same hardware. afaik, Memory speed no longer has and impact on Gaming with high-end discrete systems ? DDR3-1600 should be enough (8-16Gb) ? Does going any higher help gaming at all (excluding integrated graphics) ?
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Not bad Specs. Also not a surprise to me because it is expected from a good company such as them.
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16-16-16-36? Those timings are brutal. Is that going to be the standard for DDR4-3200?
With clock speeds that high, the timings are irrelevant.
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DDR3-1600 should be enough (8-16Gb) ? Does going any higher help gaming at all (excluding integrated graphics) ?
...When gaming, the benefits of getting RAM faster than DDR3-1600 is almost non existent -- it's something like less than a 2% difference across the board. It doesn't even matter what game you're playing, for whatever reason gaming doesn't utilize more than 1600MHz in any meaningful manner.
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Seems some people over at OCK have already put their hands on some haswell E (5960x). overclock.net/t/1506847/intel-5960x-haswell-e-8-core-quick-observations No info on the ddr4 though... EDIT - seems there's benches on ddr4 (page 19 post 188)
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...When gaming, the benefits of getting RAM faster than DDR3-1600 is almost non existent -- it's something like less than a 2% difference across the board. It doesn't even matter what game you're playing, for whatever reason gaming doesn't utilize more than 1600MHz in any meaningful manner.
And why is that? I'm interested in the subject
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lol so much for DDR4 and improved speeds 😀
I had to go out of town for business at the last minute on Monday...so that delayed my testing. Before I left I was able to run a quick overclock on the 5820k. I did not take any screen shots.. I was able to get the 5820k up to 4.5ghz at 1.25v.... I plan on doing some more testing this weekend with the H100i, but am also going to hook up a quad radiator, D5 pump, and Swiftech block and see if there is any more headroom on the 5960x...I will post screenshots of the 5820k results too.. .....and to fuel the debate on DDR4 memory.....here is a quick comparison of DDR3 on X79 and DDR4 on X99...Interesting...again take these with a grain of salt.... X79 DDR3-1866 Cas 9 Passmark memory bench = 3355 X99 DDR4-2666 Cas15 Passmark memory bench = 3028 Each with 4x4gb sticks I sure hope mature MB bioses are waiting in the wings.... http://www.overclock.net/t/1506847/intel-5960x-haswell-e-8-core-quick-observations/180#post_22743111.
Latency is killing it for sure, Imho no bios fix will help there..
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The only thing this will benefit are IGPs, particularly AMD's. Otherwise, the timings make these useless. Seriously its 2014 and we haven't had a major change in RAM in years. New chip designs happen all the time and each time SOMETHING is noticeably faster. Even AMD's bulldozer architecture had some serious performance gains, if you had something that could take advantage of it. Right now the only reason DDR4 is appealing to me is the super high capacity (128GB) sticks. Create a RAM drive out of that, set an ESXi VM with GPU passthrough, and you've got yourself the fastest booting workstation on the planet.
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Amazing!! To bad the prices are so high for DDR4.
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...When gaming, the benefits of getting RAM faster than DDR3-1600 is almost non existent -- it's something like less than a 2% difference across the board. It doesn't even matter what game you're playing, for whatever reason gaming doesn't utilize more than 1600MHz in any meaningful manner.
Very true, this is the reason that i do not run my ram at 2400 because there is no need for gaming. Waste of electricity and a waste of bandwidth. Still its good that technology is moving forward though.
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I like the lower voltage on DDR4 and with time the performance will only get better, the DDR3 sticks released in recent years do better on speed and voltage than my ancient launch-DDR3 sticks. I hope that's right when Skylake shows up :P Laptop demand should help too.
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Very true, this is the reason that i do not run my ram at 2400 because there is no need for gaming. Waste of electricity and a waste of bandwidth. Still its good that technology is moving forward though.
lol you know whats waste your 24/7 OC not idling like your old Nehalem xD 2133mhz consumes ~ 20w, 2400mhz ~ 28-32W full load yeah that's a lot :P
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This is just like early access games, it's good to play around with but you know that it will get a lot better with time. First good example to build on though. 4000 @ 15 15 15 in the future i bet
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lol you know whats waste your 24/7 OC not idling like your old Nehalem xD 2133mhz consumes ~ 20w, 2400mhz ~ 28-32W full load yeah that's a lot :P
I wish I still had my nehalem, I coulda dropped a 6 core xeon in there (x5675) for £100. X58 is far from dead and seriously underated considering its age. Soon socket 2011 xeons will be cheap just like the 1366 xeons. When the price is cheap enough I'll throw in a 10 or 12 core literally for pennies. Intel will sell you one of these in a few years for a bag of sand on a brand new socket.:D