FSP Launches the Hydro PTM+ 1400W, a Liquid-cooled power Supply

#5517834

fantaskarsef

2018-02-07 09:08

MSRP: USD $699.99 And then it's not even fully water cooled... but hey, it's got RGB LEDZ!!!1!! 😀

#5517835

Fox2232

2018-02-07 09:18

I only buy PSUs from FSP, but this is very unpleasant idea to think about. If there is leakage on MB/GPU/... Those are low voltage devices. They will misbehave, maybe some capacitors blews as result. But this can mean serious fire hazard, and maybe even chemical danger due to electrolysis. Yes, very unlikely. But if it can happen, it will happen to someone sooner or later.

#5517841

rl66

2018-02-07 09:40

to have used a silverstone nightjar with watercooling kit a long period, i can tell you that there is nothing more to fear over a classic WC solution. if well mounted then there is no leak

#5517897

JamesSneed

2018-02-07 13:46

This seems to be a pretty efficient PSU I doubt it actually requires water cooling. If it did need water FSP would have made it titanium efficiency to compensate for the heat vs water cooling. I assume this is just a novelty item for system builders to play with.

#5517917

scoter man1

2018-02-07 14:32

I never understood watercooled psus. It's not like you can hear them anyway. The fan is so big and spins so slow that it's basically silent if you have it 5 feet away or so.

#5517930

sluflyer06

2018-02-07 15:01

Wow this brings me WAYYYYY back to the glory days of overclocking and grassroots water cooling. Anyone remember the original Koolance water cooled PSU released December of 2000. They also had 2 follow on water cooled units at least one of which the case was sealed and filled with fluid and the fluid was cooled by a heat exchanger to your water setup.

#5517938

Solfaur

2018-02-07 15:33

sluflyer06:

Wow this brings me WAYYYYY back to the glory days of overclocking and grassroots water cooling. Anyone remember the original Koolance water cooled PSU released December of 2000. They also had 2 follow on water cooled units at least one of which the case was sealed and filled with fluid and the fluid was cooled by a heat exchanger to your water setup.

Now that you mentioned it, I do vaguely remember seeing something like that in tech magazines back in the days. I doubt that anyone will use things like this for anything other than expos. Imo it's just as useless (performance wise) as watercooled RAM sticks, but sure can look nice, especially to watercooling enthusiasts.

#5517939

schmidtbag

2018-02-07 15:35

I understand they added the fan for redundancy, but I feel the fan defeats the purpose of having a pre-prepared liquid cooled PSU in the first place and just adds needless complication. If your loop is done properly, I just don't see a scenario where it would heat up quickly enough to warrant the need of the fan. Efficient PSUs under low load take a very long time to warm up. What I think would've been an interesting idea is if the PSU acted as a [secondary] radiator (which to my understanding, it doesn't). If you had a small build (like mATX or ITX), a PSU like that would really help save limited space and clean up the internals. 1400W would be too overkill, but, at least you wouldn't have to worry about the PSU contributing too much heat to the loop. I remember seeing a review of this from LTT. From what I recall, they weren't impressed with it.

#5517953

HK-1

2018-02-07 16:12

realy very good PSU I think;but @USD700 nah! I'm a poor man hehe impossible for me still I don't need one for load some big truck for a while I have one humble AMD A10 7800 😉:D

#5517963

Agent-A01

2018-02-07 16:34

schmidtbag:

I understand they added the fan for redundancy, but I feel the fan defeats the purpose of having a pre-prepared liquid cooled PSU in the first place and just adds needless complication. If your loop is done properly, I just don't see a scenario where it would heat up quickly enough to warrant the need of the fan. Efficient PSUs under low load take a very long time to warm up.

Have you ever seen the internals of a PSU? It's not possible(feasibly) to create a block that can cool every component that produces heat. The components have varying height with some like switches standing vertically, which would make for a very complicated design for a block. So this is a gimmick, like you said quality PSUs rarely run into heat issues anyways.

#5517972

schmidtbag

2018-02-07 17:14

Agent-A01:

Have you ever seen the internals of a PSU? It's not possible(feasibly) to create a block that can cool every component that produces heat. The components have varying height with some like switches standing vertically, which would make for a very complicated design for a block. So this is a gimmick, like you said quality PSUs rarely run into heat issues anyways.

I'm not sure I get the relevance of your post. Yes, I understand a single block isn't realistic. That doesn't make my points wrong; there's no good reason to have a liquid cooled PSU if it still depends on a fan.

#5517975

Embra

2018-02-07 17:18

It looks like a $200-300 add-on to the price for the most part. I suppose if one has some extreme case and $$, this would appeal to them.

#5517980

Agent-A01

2018-02-07 17:32

schmidtbag:

I'm not sure I get the relevance of your post. Yes, I understand a single block isn't realistic. That doesn't make my points wrong; there's no good reason to have a liquid cooled PSU if it still depends on a fan.

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that it's pointless to have a water cooled PSU. The point is that a fan is going to be required anyways because of the reasons stated beforehand. You can say the same thing about other water cooled components. H20 block on a CPU causes a much higher VRM temperature because there is no longer airflow from a HSF. This is clearly a pure marketing ploy to get buyers; since you can't guaranteed everything is cooled with H20 in the PSU, a fan is still required.

#5517994

vbetts

Moderator

2018-02-07 18:30

fantaskarsef:

MSRP: USD $699.99 And then it's not even fully water cooled... but hey, it's got RGB LEDZ!!!1!! 😀

The RGB lights make the coolant transfer even more heat out of it when it runs through it! People do seem to forget that high end power supplies can heat up easily.

#5518048

rl66

2018-02-07 23:03

Agent-A01:

Have you ever seen the internals of a PSU? It's not possible(feasibly) to create a block that can cool every component that produces heat. The components have varying height with some like switches standing vertically, which would make for a very complicated design for a block. So this is a gimmick, like you said quality PSUs rarely run into heat issues anyways.

At least someone who like to open stuff to see how it work 🙂 yes, it's for that i had chosen the nightjar: -there is no fan to bother once on WC (it was for a totaly silent PC... one less fan 🙂 ) -the heat is canalised by architecture of the whole PSU on a rad that once removed by the waterblock make it efficient. (also it is for that this PSU were expensive) The point were i don't agree is the heat issue if you live in hot temp (heat + hot = damn hot) or in cold temp (heat + cold = thermal shock) it can happen. My Corsair 1200 died like that. And yes with Rainbow this PSU have more power than other (i will need to put sunglasses and suncream next time i will do a PC for someone with so much led... lol)

#5518049

tsunami231

2018-02-07 23:08

hmm water cooled psu? am i only one that thinks that horrid idea?

#5518054

HeavyHemi

2018-02-07 23:33

Agent-A01:

Have you ever seen the internals of a PSU? It's not possible(feasibly) to create a block that can cool every component that produces heat. The components have varying height with some like switches standing vertically, which would make for a very complicated design for a block. So this is a gimmick, like you said quality PSUs rarely run into heat issues anyways.

You could design a PSU where all off the parts that could not be passively cooled, would be designed to fit a waterblock The orientation of the components is, after all, a function of design. Air cooled designs favor flat complicated shapes, for cooling. Of course the problem is, redesigning power components with a water block in mind... hugely expensive for niche market. Wait a minute...isn't this http://hexus.net/tech/news/psu/106012-fsp-bitspower-unveil-hydro-ptm-liquid-cooled-psu/ 23 May 2017, 12:01

#5518093

__hollywood|meo

2018-02-08 05:35

i saw the blurb about this in their newsletter. looks quite nice, & i love FSP...however the price tag, like the premise, is a bit excessive

#5518183

ChisChas

2018-02-08 11:39

sluflyer06:

Wow this brings me WAYYYYY back to the glory days of overclocking and grassroots water cooling. Anyone remember the original Koolance water cooled PSU released December of 2000. They also had 2 follow on water cooled units at least one of which the case was sealed and filled with fluid and the fluid was cooled by a heat exchanger to your water setup.

You bet I remember the Koolance water-cooling kit, I had a Koolance sitting on top of an early gaming PC! It felt very cool (excuse the pun) at the time. probably about 2005?

#5518214

nz3777

2018-02-08 13:27

I find this very disturbing You dont wanna be Anywhee Anywhere near if that thing springs a leak it can kill you and anyone else in close proximity. All that fun for only $700 usd lol, well I can just buy a Regular psu and drop it in the bath-tub to expand my loop haha! Iam just tesing sorry wc fans....Please do not wc your power- supply.And while you are getting fried to death the cool rgb leds will make it look more cool, what more could you ask for pffttt.