First AMD Ryzen Shipment Batch Entails One Million Processors
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Yeah I noticed that news on another website and did some digging on the 8-core parts, but they really aren't price cuts? The prices mentioned are still the same as they have been for a while now.
Example a 6900K was like 1100 USD at launch, right now you can purchase it at microcenter for 999 USD.
That's still twice the price of AMD, and (likely) even the Ryzen 7 1700 can battle that processor at just 329 USD.
Edo
Noice...
Robbo9999
Yeah, I think you're right, I'm confident 3 yrs it will absolutely fine for gaming, 5 yrs I'm less sure about, but we'll see - all these people still rocking 2500 & 2600K's which are from 2011 are still good if overclocked and that's 6 yrs later. In the meantime people need to be buying these new Ryzen CPUs to give Intel a beating for once!
sverek
I feel good about this release.
Not much overreacting hype, steady approach, pre-order with warranty and lots of CPUs.
ThundercatMan
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sclient=tablet-gws&site=&source=hp&q=rising+to+the+top&oq=Rising+to+the+&gs_l=tablet-gws.1.0.0l3.2404.6875.0.8447.11.6.0.5.5.0.184.682.0j5.5.0....0...1c.1j4.64.tablet-gws..1.10.707...0i131k1.xMzQ_F2_Ylo
Ryzen to the top anyone? 🙂 surprised AMD didn't use this song as an opener to the live stream lol
Borys
Hi all!
Now its serious... I really cant understand WHY AMD will sell this 1800X with at least the same performance of the 6900X by USD 499??? Why they do this??? It would be priced at minimum of 599 - 649 with the same sucessful...
AMD last years is in a deep loss and now with this GOLD CHANCE in hands they do this?
Someone would help me to understand it? I cant understand...
vase
Probably they think that having the image of a company that "rips people off & milks their customers for money" is not the image AMD likes to have? And never was.
I mean. Single chip GPU boards for 1000$ or more ... or 8/16 CPUs for up to 2000$ ? ... That's something we never saw in AMD's history. So I guess they just believe in keeping the image of providing as much value as they can offer to a broad group of reasonable gamers without overcharging them.
It's called customer retention by not pissing off your customers with either overpriced hardware or some other negative surprises that may pop up after the first batch of reviews has already formed a public opinion...
I think it's very wise of them to offer Ryzen for a fair price that's as close to the costs of production as possible. And not artificially bloating up the price so it hits maybe 70-80% of intel prices in the same performance class. Just to increase profit margin and "milk" customers.
It's a sincere message to AMD's customers, that the product is not being sold for increased prices "just because they could"...
(And of course it's a big challenge for intel)
xafier
Because a lot of people like myself will end up having to do a full build, new CPU = new mobo, also need DDR4 as my current system is DDR3.
Then you might as well throw in an m2 SSD, possibly a new cooler?
It starts to add up, and hence why I haven't moved from my 2500k for 6 years as a GOOD upgrade would have been X99 + 6850k or 6900k but that is far too pricey.
AMD have been sensible, drop the price, take back market share, probably make more profit overall due to increased sales. It makes their shareholders happy and it gets them back in the game.
If they had released Ryzen at comparable prices to X99 I wouldn't have bothered with a new machine.
sverek
Not all people watch benchmark and decide CPU from there.
AMD doesn't really have a strong brand name an Intel that rings the bells. So for those people to switch, AMD need to set attractive price.
"1800X with at least the same performance of the 6900X"
You don't know that. Cool your pants.
sverek
Intel changes motherboard chipset every year / 2nd generation.
You will have to do full rebuilt even if you go with Intel.
cowie
oh yeah like guru isn't a gaming/hardware community? well I am sure the ones looking for more cores and almost being as fast in games have their 7700k set ups for sale right now
well who says its a better cpu for gaming?
I am sure amd has a good grip on being the second place cheaper option 🙂
who would argue with almost as fast all around then a 1500usd cpu for 500usd?but ....but....
we really do need some fire for all this smoke cus I did not see the goods yet and you know anyone who does have one now would never ever say anything bad about it.
Noisiv
Yeah, all of sudden everyone is running cpu rendering farm or hosting several virtual machines.
Screw the gaming performance, we are pros!
/sarcasm
ppl dont get that any kind of bad info about Zen throws you under the NDA bus.
if something gets leaked, you can bet your ass its good news.
I was thinking about making a thread named
"Switched to Zen. Zero gaming performance benefit, some games run worse than on my ancient i3"
with few *reserved* posts bellow the OP :wanker:
Denial
He knows that - he's saying that either way you go you have to buy a completely new setup, but with Ryzen it's way more affordable because the $500 you're not spending on the CPU can go to all those other components.
While the 1700 doesn't directly go up against the 6900K - this screenshot really puts things into perspective:
https://i.redd.it/rd570i21bihy.png
cowie
ahhhhh we still have to wait/that sucks lets just give them the win in everything
I know they are going to ruin my fantasies
nz3777
1 million cpu's at $300 average= what is that 300 Million dollars?
alanm
This is AMDs Conroe moment. Intel did the same back in 2006 when AMDs FX55 and FX57 chips were top performers and in the $600-1000 range. Intel offered $300 chips that could beat them.
vase
Wow.
I guess sometimes rubbing it in is the best way of illustrating certain situations.
Darkest
We seem to have different memories of the past, as I can remember AMD CPUs going for over the $1,000 mark quite easily. I also remember their more mainstream processors being similar in price to Intel. AMD is a company out to make money, when they were on top performance wise they pumped the prices up just the same as Intel has done.
The current release prices are solid, but I don't for a moment believe they're doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. If they thought they could make more they'd charge more. This is the same company that initially charged more for the AMD 7900 series than the at the time competition (Nvidia's 670/680) despite being behind in performance for months up until the 12.11 driver release.
I've a long history with AMD products, and I love seeing proper competition as well as more options for the consumer, but this isn't some sort of black and white good against evil children's story.
vase
Which models were these?
I know of the Abu Dhabi (16 core opteron) which hangs around at ~900-1000$ since release.
And I know of the FX-57 which released at 1100$ and went down to 800$ after 6 months after release. While this was when Intel hadn't released the Core 2 Duo and their counterpart to the FX-55/57 was the P4 XE (prescott 2m) which was at the same price point (1000$)...
But i am talking about 6950 @1700$ and single core GPUs that cost over 1000$ (Pascal). both price regions have never been touched by any earlier AMD product even when AMD had the upper hand.
So I don't know... maybe you want to tell about your different memories of the past more specifically then?
Darkest
The FX-60 went for over $1000, I know a couple of others did also, although at least half of the original FX line were around 700-800 on launch depending on model. Their Opteron line from the era could get quite costly also, a lot of people used to buy the lower end ones for consumer purposes due to them using the same socket.
The fact is, the only reason AMD haven't been charging those sorts of prices for a long time, is because they're not in a position to do so. They've been behind Intel since the launch of the Core Duo in almost every respect. When you don't have a competing product of course you're not going to charge as much as the competition, while Intel was free to do whatever they wanted.
If you switched things around you can guarantee AMD would be pushing high prices themselves.
