GeForce RTX 3070 Ti performance Leaks in Ashes of the Singularity

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9% for 100usd premium - seems fair compared to what 3080ti offers over 3080/6800xt
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I suppose 9% sounds better than 6fps but the 100usd premium in todays market.....more like a 1000usd premium over the £539 i paid for my Msi 3070 gaming xtrio, there are new listings on ebay for the 3070 at £1250 - 2500, Scan uk have a few ti`s listed ready but as usual....no prices, I`ll be surprised if these start below £1000.
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8GB for $600 only makes sense for Nvidia and for miners. These will be scalped for $2000 because people have lost their minds. An 8GB mid range card should cost $300.
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This is my baby, assuming, MSRP prices that is. Otherwise, pass, wait for next gen.
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Only a madman would spend that much on a 8gb card in 2021.
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Undying:

Only a madman would spend that much on a 8gb card in 2021.
can't make a 16GB card and only charge $100 more.
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8GB = pass for me.
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Moonbogg:

8GB for $600 only makes sense for Nvidia and for miners. These will be scalped for $2000 because people have lost their minds. An 8GB mid range card should cost $300.
300$ you are stretching it it's 2021 not 2010. But i would surely expect a 600$ USD card to come with more than 8GB of ram. For 4k ray tarcing gaming these days even with DLSS ultra 10GB is kind of a minimum.
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Moonbogg:

An 8GB mid range card should cost $300
Neither of the 70 cards are mid range, these are the slots where a 70 and 80 (non Tye) would sit, how much did a 1080 cost? how much did a 2080 cost? It's priced exactly as it should be and where it should be. If and when Micron starts producing 2GB GDDR6x modules, a 16GB card will be viable - from AIB's. 580 was 499 in a time when node drops brought savings to fab. 680 was 549 780 as 650. 650-699 is the slot for 80-non Ti parts and has been for a long time now.
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Undying:

Only a madman would spend that much on a 8gb card in 2021.
I'll agree with that. Especially since the new consoles (like always in the past) will start raising system requirements. Call of Duty 2 always comes to mind. I had a 128mb Geforce 6800 when that came out and it ran like crap in DX9 mode. Bought a 7600GT with 256mb a few months later and it ran so much better. I really want my next card to have at least 12gb, I am literally right in the market for a 3060 except the cheapest one I can find on amazon is $1100 dollars. 🙄
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Undying:

Only a madman would spend that much on a 8gb card in 2021.
Only a madman would care about the memory of a card, rather then the performance of said card. If there was a card that was 10 times faster then a RTX 3090, but only had 8GB of memory, you better believe, i'd be getting it. Memory only matters as far as the performance is degraded from it, aka performance is always what matters in the end. Buy performance, not make-believe reasons to require more memory.
jbscotchman:

I had a 128mb Geforce 6800 when that came out and it ran like crap in DX9 mode. Bought a 7600GT with 256mb a few months later and it ran so much better.
yes, you absolutely had better performance, because: IT WAS A FASTER CARD. The 7600 GT with 256mb of ram was faster then the 6800 with 256mb of ram (it came in both 128mb of 256mb). Had nothing to do with the 128mb vs 256, it had everything to do with the fact that the 7000 series was a decent leap over the 6000 series. If the 7600 GT you had gotten had only 128mb of ram, you would have noticed the same, better, performance. Do your research, find out if too "little" ram on a GPU will actually affect you at all (8GB is not currently even affecting 4K games in any decent amount) and buy what is right for you based off of PERFORMANCE.
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Undying:

Only a madman would spend that much on a 8gb card in 2021.
that would be true,if there was a better alternative. at this point no card available comes with absolutely no tradeoffs when it comes to specs and performance except for 3090 and 3080Ti
jbscotchman:

I really want my next card to have at least 12gb
16g g6x,not g6 rt+dlss and all the bells and whistles,otherwise what is the point of getting a huge pool of vram if you're not gonna be able to hit acceptable fps with ray tracing fps anyway stay away from 3060 too,it's not a great card.it isn't bad,but really,this should be $280 not $350 or $1000
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Aura89:

Only a madman would care about the memory of a card, rather then the performance of said card. If there was a card that was 10 times faster then a RTX 3090, but only had 8GB of memory, you better believe, i'd be getting it. Memory only matters as far as the performance is degraded from it, aka performance is always what matters in the end. Buy performance, not make-believe reasons to require more memory. yes, you absolutely had better performance, because: IT WAS A FASTER CARD. The 7600 GT with 256mb of ram was faster then the 6800 with 256mb of ram (it came in both 128mb of 256mb). Had nothing to do with the 128mb vs 256, it had everything to do with the fact that the 7000 series was a decent leap over the 6000 series. If the 7600 GT you had gotten had only 128mb of ram, you would have noticed the same, better, performance. Do your research, find out if too "little" ram on a GPU will actually affect you at all (8GB is not currently even affecting 4K games in any decent amount) and buy what is right for you based off of PERFORMANCE.
You couldn't be more wrong. Obviously you weren't gaming at the time I was referring to. In the current state of gaming 8 and even 6gb is fine for high end gaming, but like I said with the new consoles system requirements are gonna go up. Just like when the Xbone and PS4 released, 2gb GPU's started lacking in performance very fast. I understand there's no point in putting a ton of memory on a GPU if it doesn't have the horsepower to back it up. Do you think I just started posting here yesterday?
cucaulay malkin:

that would be true,if there was a better alternative. at this point no card available comes with absolutely no tradeoffs when it comes to specs and performance except for 3090 and 3080Ti 16g g6x,not g6 rt+dlss and all the bells and whistles,otherwise what is the point of getting a huge pool of vram if you're not gonna be able to hit acceptable fps with ray tracing fps anyway stay away from 3060 too,it's not a great card.it isn't bad,but really,this should be $280 not $350 or $1000
You're right, it should be $299 at the most, but at this point the pricing is just insane and I'd be happy to get any GPU at the actual MSRP right now.
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jbscotchman:

You couldn't be more wrong. Obviously you weren't gaming at the time I was referring to. In the current state of gaming 8 and even 6gb is fine for high end gaming, but like I said with the new consoles system requirements are gonna go up. Just like when the Xbone and PS4 released, 2gb GPU's started lacking in performance very fast. I understand there's no point in putting a ton of memory on a GPU if it doesn't have the horsepower to back it up. Do you think I just started posting here yesterday? You're right, it should be $299 at the most, but at this point the pricing is just insane and I'd be happy to get any GPU at the actual MSRP right now.
it has to have a balance you don't wanna choose between one shortage or the other just get something that has all ends covered,or else don't,especially given how much cards cost. and don't get 3070ti especially I would understand getting 3080ti a lot more and frankly I think all those yt channels that make it into worst launch ever are just desperate. it's a lot of money,but it's the cheapest one that has you covered for years. 3080 - maybe,but 10g is not that much over 8g.plus it's 10% more performance.it's not good value like 980ti/1080ti,but I don't think anybody getting 3080ti is gonna complain about any aspect of its performance or lack of features in foreseeable future. that said,I'd rather get a 3080 and upgrade than pay that much premium for 3080ti.
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cucaulay malkin:

that would be true,if there was a better alternative. at this point no card available comes with absolutely no tradeoffs when it comes to specs and performance except for 3090 and 3080Ti 16g g6x,not g6 rt+dlss and all the bells and whistles,otherwise what is the point of getting a huge pool of vram if you're not gonna be able to hit acceptable fps with ray tracing fps anyway stay away from 3060 too,it's not a great card.it isn't bad,but really,this should be $280 not $350 or $1000
Even the 16G6 helps in many games. Whats the point having super fast G6X when you have only 8GB of it? If the msrp is real 330$ for a 3060 thats great deal i think and i would most definitely consider one.
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Ridiculous. A 970 served people fine for 6-7 years. Myself included. 40-60fps ulltra everything. It had 3.5gb. People keep pushing this overstated narrative. Look at the evidence for yourself, its all over youtube. Vram only matters for 4k in this day and age.
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jbscotchman:

You couldn't be more wrong.
I'm most definitely not wrong, and i was absolutely gaming back then. First GPU was a geforce 2 ti. Just go look at benchmarks from back then. They explicitly prove what i said. To be clear: I'm not saying memory doesn't matter at all, ever. But we still have cards that are exactly the same with 2GB and 4GB models, or 4GB and 8GB models, and they still, TO THIS DAY, show very little difference between them. We've gotten to a point where we have so much memory even games that "use" it do not actually USE it, and the whole console thing is a bunch of BS because the consoles run the entire system on said memory and use the memory differently then a PC, it's not an apples to apples comparison.
Undying:

Even the 16G6 helps in many games.
Give 3 examples. And to be clear: You must have the exact same GPU with and without 16GB of memory. If not that, then you must have the same architecture, and to show that there is a difference in relative performance not based off the fact that the GPU itself with less memory is slower, and there are no bottlenecks at lower resolutions to showcase the memory difference. Anything that screws with the results due to OTHER factors do not count. Good luck.
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Aura89:

I'm most definitely not wrong, and i was absolutely gaming back then. First GPU was a geforce 2 ti. Just go look at benchmarks from back then. They explicitly prove what i said. To be clear: I'm not saying memory doesn't matter at all, ever. But we still have cards that are exactly the same with 2GB and 4GB models, or 4GB and 8GB models, and they still, TO THIS DAY, show very little difference between them. We've gotten to a point where we have so much memory even games that "use" it do not actually USE it, and the whole console thing is a bunch of BS because the consoles run the entire system on said memory and use the memory differently then a PC, it's not an apples to apples comparison. Give 3 examples. And to be clear: You must have the exact same GPU with and without 16GB of memory. If not that, then you must have the same architecture, and to show that there is a difference in relative performance not based off the fact that the GPU itself with less memory is slower, and there are no bottlenecks at lower resolutions to showcase the memory difference. Anything that screws with the results due to OTHER factors do not count. Good luck.
There is a few examples but between 4gb and 8gb gpus like rx580. Newer games starting from not so new rise of the tomb raider to resident evil village where 8gb allows you to play higher details. Doom eternal is just the best example of it. Card have enough gpu power to run nightmare textures but not enough vram, like the gtx1660super. 12-16gb comes next especially now where raytracing uses extra vram and resolution higher.
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jbscotchman:

but like I said with the new consoles system requirements are gonna go up
You're misunderstanding something about the RAM on these consoles. They aren't dedicated to System or Video, they are a unified pool, you're getting exactly 16GB total, and some of that is actually locked away and not available to games/user.
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TimmyP:

People keep pushing this overstated narrative. Look at the evidence for yourself, its all over youtube. Vram only matters for 4k in this day and age.
im not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you believe what you just said