EVGA Offers 999 USD GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black Edition Gaming

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Dynarush_333:

In 20 years I haven't seen a card come out where none of the features on the box don't work yet and with no sign of them working anytime soon. Hell, even reviewers couldn't review the new features. I wouldn't call ~20 fps gains that spectacular. It's an average upgrade at best. The price is what makes it average. It's double the price of the 1080ti and offers nowhere near double the performance. If it was $800 then there would be no reason to complain. All of this Ray tracing is nothing more than words at this point, what performance we have seen is 1080p ~60 fps. People buying this card don't play at 1080p either. Basically, Nvidia is trying to get us to cover their R&D costs with nothing to show. I mean you'd think it would have 16gb vram not the same amount as the 1080ti. People keep defending a billion dollar company with nothing but words and empty promises. Frankly, I couldn't care less about fancy lighting effects when FPS is most important. Because that's all this generation will be capable of. This tech will be good in the next 5 years. You also forget that console games dictate how games will be and I can guarantee the PS5 won't be doing ray tracing. So it is pointless right now. The price makes all the difference and look how many card failures that have happened and that's just on this forum, reddit is even worse. Also, the other cards (2080, 2070) are competing with Pascal, 1070 was on par with the 980ti, same can't be said this time. The whole series is one big expensive joke and people need to stop trying to justify it. You have nothing to argue about as there is no proof of any of the new features other than the Nvidia presentation. It could have all the TFLOP tensor rainbow generating crap it wants. It's meaningless at this point with nothing to show. Plus 7nm is right around the corner and that is wiser to invest in, ray tracing or not. As I said they are trying to cover their R&D costs. Shame they didn't spend more on quality control, as there wouldn't be so mant DOA cards and failures after a few weeks. This just reminds me of the 480 all over again with tessalation. It took till the 700 series to be decent. It will be the same story with this gen. I will buy when Ray tracing is more than words and unaccesable demos. Paying for a beta test is silly. It's on par with the BS about dx12. NO ONE thought Nvidia would charge titan prices for a ti and yet here we are.
Yup and no one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see what the problem is. Why do we keep getting these walls of text from people who think the cards are garbage and overpriced? I think thou dost protest too much ๐Ÿ˜›
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I got a 2080ti and thankfully mines working fine. The only issue I did have was where my display signal started cutting out. I blew in the HDMI cable connector and I haven't had an issue since. Also I'm not defending my purchase but it's complete BS for someone to say these cards are bad, you want a bad card, go and try a 5800 fx ultra, now that was a bad release, I should know as I had one. Regarding the issues, someone posted over on the GeForce forums that a lot of issues are caused by compatability issues with motherboards, Asus will be rolling out updates soon apparently. This is normal as it would be near on impossible to test every type of config in a test lab. I would also bet that many issues are psu and windows related as someone already mentioned. I'd also recommend anyone playing Path of Excile to disable msaa, on my system trying to play any game after closing poe will give me a black screen. Disabling msaa, all games launch fine afterwards.
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BangTail:

Yup and no one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see what the problem is. Why do we keep getting these walls of text from people who think the cards are garbage and overpriced? I think thou dost protest too much ๐Ÿ˜›
Be happy that people can write down WoT with which you or anyone else can disagree. Opening doors to opposite is road to damnation. Calling it Garbage or in similar way is subjective approach. Take it as that. But he has some objective points there too.
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BangTail:

Yup and no one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see what the problem is. Why do we keep getting these walls of text from people who think the cards are garbage and overpriced? I think thou dost protest too much ๐Ÿ˜›
Maybe itยดs because we are on an enthusiast hardware forum??? Were people are supposed to give their opinions, you know, about hardware and related stuff...
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Dynarush_333:

Are some of you illiterate? I haven't once said in my massive reply they are bad.
It is one of the worse GPU's I've seen in the 20 years I've been PC gaming.
No, my literacy is excellent, not so sure about your memory though ๐Ÿ˜‰ And I'm what's wrong with the industry am I? Another poor hard done by 1080 Ti owner bleating about expensive enthusiast hardware like it's the first time video cards have ever been expensive (and yes they are overpriced, I've said that many times) but if you want the fastest video card, you pay them the money or you go without. Oh and yeah, I did pre-order a 9900K JFYI, I like new tech, what can I say ๐Ÿ˜›
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"Why do we keep getting these walls of text from people who think the cards are garbage and overpriced?" Nvidia's reveal centred almost exclusively on RTX capabilities, none of which can be seen in purchased software currently. The primary selling point was RT functionality and we now know that you'll need the top end 2080Ti just to get minimally acceptable frame rates and at a maximum of 1080p. There is a very high risk that games making use of RT as a selling point will have that feature highly underused just to reach acceptable fps (it would be very useful if RT usage was reflected within every game review). We also know that fps uplift is nothing out of the ordinary for a new release. Etc, etc, etc. At prices of 1300 euro and well above, that's a hell of a lot to to ask your enthusiast segment to swallow...many of which might have been tempted to upgrade and could afford this card but for reasons of sanity, refuse to do so (outrageous cost of card and very suspect RTX delivery) Thus, it's not unreasonable that 'walls of text' of protest can be so readily seen here.
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I'm not saying (and would never say) you can't protest. I'm just pointing out that no amount of complaining is going to change anything where the prices of those cards are concerned. Thankfully, I couldn't give a fig about the RT features of the cards and it wasn't even a consideration when I bought them. I hope they go somewhere with it but only time will tell. The whole launch was badly handled, but it's hardly the first time that has happened and it probably won't be the last.
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SniperX:

LE: I know it is bad press to say this truth, but since this is a legit HW site that cares about its users, I think you should post this new asap. I read a number of threads in the 2080/2080ti forums...problems are seen across a number of manufacturers including Founders Edition, Asus and MSI. I doubt there is a problem with the cards themselves, more like driver/windows/psu problems. 1) Never rush to install the latest version of windows (1809) 2) Always do a clean install of your gpu drivers, also, don't install the latest drivers unless the change log contains a fix for an existing problem you are having 3) Never use a cable splitter to power the 2nd and/or 3rd power connector on your gpu, each power connector should get it's own cable from the psu
It is hardware issue. Artifacts don't appear because of driver/windows issues. At least as a word of warning I would write an article about this. Given this is a very expensive piece of hardware I think it is a must to have an article. But I see nobody cares, not Guru3D, not techpowerup. Everyone is recommending these stupidly expensive cards like they would be faultless and sold for peanuts....
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EVGA B stock $609.00 1080ti , same problem with the 2080ti not in stock , might as well say a dollar,all prices are subject to change without prior notice .
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RavenMaster:

Even with price drops, that is still one fugly looking card with its cheap and nasty gelatin-looking top casing. Putting this card next to a Founders Edition would be like putting a Lada Samara next to a Lamborghini. Or more accurately its like putting a Lamborghini engine into the chassis of a Lada Samara.
The design is actually quite nice imho, pictures don't do them justice and I'll take EVGA over a fu*king FE anytime given the ridiculously high failure rate they have at the moment. At the end of the day, I don't much care how they look, I do care that they work ๐Ÿ™‚
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I do welcome Nvidia for getting RT into the mainstream, and there's no doubt whatsoever that once the tech is able to deliver with minimal/no developer compromise we'll all be behind it. Unfortunately, with what we now know, Nvidia would appear to have more than dropped the ball on this - both (and particularly) on pricing, and in the way they've tried to disguise the shift in model number between generations. I'd certainly say this has a very high risk of being viewed as somewhat disrespectful/arrogant to the potential purchaser, particularly the enthusiast community who will recognise that only a card at the level of 2080Ti would be in scope to realise the GTX to RTX change/promise, particularly the RT headline act. Yes of course, no one is forcing us to make a purchase, but unfortunately for Nvidia, it's almost certain they've missed at least one round of consumer upgrades. AMD also know this and would no doubt be hoping they were in a better position to capitalise...maybe next year?
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You know before people start saying it's an outrage how much they priced this card(And I'm not disagreeing with this, prices for RTX series cards are a little on the high side), this is not the first time we've seen high priced enthusiast GPU's. The 295x2 and the GTX 690. Before anyone says these were high priced because they're 2 cards, this is not relevant. These cards are sold as a single unit, high end enthusiast cards. That being said, no one can deny the power so far Turing has, and with proper driver optimization and aging it will be better. Most likely Pascal has reached it's end point for optimizations.
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Dynarush_333:

In 20 years I haven't seen a card come out where none of the features on the box don't work yet and with no sign of them working anytime soon. Hell, even reviewers couldn't review the new features.
DX10? DX12? How long did we have to wait until we saw games that supported either of those? I mean sure there were benchmarks but I don't buy my cards to only run benchmarks.
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Dynarush_333:

We can vote with our wallets though! Anyways how are you liking your card? ๐Ÿ™‚ What sort of temps do you get and what clock speeds does your card boosts to?
Yes you can and I hope that you do if you feel strongly about it. I love the cards personally, highest temps I've seen while gaming are around 71C and I think it sits around 1950 but I don't OC so it's right where it should be ๐Ÿ™‚
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Hot damn...999 USD!? At that price I'll buy three; 2 for SLI and a 3rd to hang from my rear-view mirror. The ladies'll be throwing themselves at my car when they see me driving by with the windows down and those GPU fans spinning backwards.
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These are the fastest cards right now period , that we all agree. If you have one or two of them please enjoy it ๐Ÿ™‚ . I think they won't come down in price anytime soon ๐Ÿ™ it's sold out absolutely everywhere in the USA with no eta even on eVGA website, except newegg that have only one 2080Ti for sale with a huggeeee ... ( add infinitum ) price gouging marked up price ๐Ÿ™„ dirty play ๐Ÿ˜› . I wonder if nvidia just made 500~600 units of 2080Ti video cards and that was it ๐Ÿ˜€ ,low volume or paper launch , same as Intel 9900K nowhere to be found, oh dear ... You can buy one at a low price of $1,500US Dollars + Taxes + Shipping = $2,000US more or less depending on where you live on the USA https://i.imgur.com/rJwlYFg.png
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Paul's Hardware said it best "No Competition " from AMD That said , the 1080ti is competition for 2080 at the present time , 1080ti got my $ for what it can do now , not promises or opinion not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
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Angrily raises hands and mumbles bad words towards novidia, instead of realizing novidia trying to sell leftovers GTX1000 series and supply of RTX GPUS are low, which causing high demand, therefore high prices. And totally ignores the fact that EVGA provides highest quality video cards on the market, therefore higher price. ... Keeps being angry at Novidia, cause it's cool thing to do nowadays and act as if forced to buy it.
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'This might actually be a bit of a marketing gimmick, as EVGA is listing a price that is 200 bucks cheaper than NVIDIA indicates. Little is known about availability as well." I don't know if its a marketing gimmick, nvidia had announced msrp at $999, not $1200. Maybe the actual $999 priced cards are about to be released?
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As much as I agree the pricing sucked, it's a little disappointing to see it go down so fast. It's good for people who don't own it yet but sucks for us who do. It only means I'm going to get back less when it comes to selling my card at update time. Oh well. On a side note, are people still complaining about the price? This price drop makes it better. I don't mean to be rude but if people are really on that low of a budget, maybe they shouldn't be buying the best card on the market.