Core i7 9700K Results Spotted in Geekbench Database

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Intel = best IPC, best single-core scores, good multi-core scores, highest FPS, highest cost; milked the market for ten years. AMD = very good IPC, good single-core scores, best multi-core scores, good FPS, highest value; bet the farm and made a miraculous comeback, reigniting competition and forcing Intel to produce, ensuring we will have great choices now and - if and only if AMD survives - tomorrow. Considering that the differences in single-core / FPS are almost non-discernable both in apps and games - who are you going to support with your next CPU purchase? As long as AMD can even come close to Intel's product - I'll buy AMD. To do otherwise would be a vote for the past, which none of us liked.
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i7 CPUs don't even have hyper threading anymore? Another smack in our face! There's no way I'm paying north of $750 just to get 8 cores and 16 threads!
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RzrTrek:

i7 CPUs don't even have hype threading anymore? Another smack in our face! There's no way I'm paying north of $750 just to get 8 cores and 16 threads!
If they price these at those prices, nobody is going to buy anything.
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honestly intel is giving me nothing worth of an update, ill run my 7700k oced to 5.05 ghz for a few years i think, very good single core score and a decent multithreaded, i use my pc mainly for gaming and its performing extremely well still http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3125144
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Arbie:

Intel = best IPC, best single-core scores, good multi-core scores, highest FPS, highest cost; milked the market for ten years. AMD = very good IPC, good single-core scores, best multi-core scores, good FPS, highest value; bet the farm and made a miraculous comeback, reigniting competition and forcing Intel to produce, ensuring we will have great choices now and - if and only if AMD survives - tomorrow. Considering that the differences in single-core / FPS are almost non-discernable both in apps and games - who are you going to support with your next CPU purchase? As long as AMD can even come close to Intel's product - I'll buy AMD. To do otherwise would be a vote for the past, which none of us liked.
Well said and agree. Amd saved the CPU world from being ripped off!
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Arbie:

To do otherwise would be a vote for the past, which none of us liked.
I'm fairly certain there were a few smart Intel stock owners here who enjoyed the dividends and the stock price development for all those years. They could always buy a HEDT CPU from Intel if they got bored of the quad core maximum in mainstream. A whole lot of things suddenly become tolerable if you receive money.
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Fox2232:

Geekbench3 did not support SMT. Likely nothing changed with Geekbench4.
Ah, well if that's the case then that explains why there's a big difference between 9700K and 8700K. I'm interested to see some CPU tests that can effectively use all the threads of the 8700K, so we can see the real performance between 8700K and 9700K in multi-threaded workloads. I thought it was a too easy win for the 9700K there!
JOHN30011887:

Im defo switching my 8700k for the 9700k Aslong as it performs same or better than what iv got then im happy, cause the 8700k gets stupid hot in some games and i dont ever want water cooling
I was gonna say that might not make much sense, but you want the solder & lower temperatures, so there's some sense in what you say. I'm not sure though on max multi-threaded performance: a max overclocked 8700K vs a max overclocked 9700K on a proper multi-threaded test that can use all threads - I'm thinking the 8700K might edge it.
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Robbo9999:

Ah, well if that's the case then that explains why there's a big difference between 9700K and 8700K. I'm interested to see some CPU tests that can effectively use all the threads of the 8700K, so we can see the real performance between 8700K and 9700K in multi-threaded workloads. I thought it was a too easy win for the 9700K there!
I would think cinebench r15. It shows around 30% boost from SMT. And since it is intel vs. intel, it is fair comparison as one does not have to be afraid that there is heavy use of some specific instruction favored by different architecture.
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Kaarme:

I'm fairly certain there were a few smart Intel stock owners here who enjoyed the dividends and the stock price development for all those years. They could always buy a HEDT CPU from Intel if they got bored of the quad core maximum in mainstream. A whole lot of things suddenly become tolerable if you receive money.
guilty. with that said, i'm eagerly awaiting my threadripper 2950x. also, i've invested in AMD as well...and they were the *top performing stock* on the S&P 500 (Nvidia was #2) over the last year with $140 billion in gains (for the stock, not me LOL). i've been a dissident shareholder in Intel for the last five years (regular shareholder for 15 before that). the other really stupid marketing trick from Intel is pcie lanes and their "step-up" strategy for those who want to use them.when you can have 64 pcie gen 3 lanes for the price of Intel's 24-28 it is a slap in the face and another major reason to go AMD.
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Fox2232:

I would think cinebench r15. It shows around 30% boost from SMT. And since it is intel vs. intel, it is fair comparison as one does not have to be afraid that there is heavy use of some specific instruction favored by different architecture.
If SMT (HT) is worth around 30% extra performance, then multi-thread performance gonna be pretty much equal between 9700K & 8700K when running at same clocks: 8/6 = 1.33 which would be the 9700K's advantage over an HT disabled 8700K, while HT would win back that extra 30% performance you mentioned.
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Robbo9999:

If SMT (HT) is worth around 30% extra performance, then multi-thread performance gonna be pretty much equal between 9700K & 8700K when running at same clocks: 8/6 = 1.33 which would be the 9700K's advantage over an HT disabled 8700K, while HT would win back that extra 30% performance you mentioned.
I guess that's about right. There is some up/down range depending on instructions and memory access/cache requirements. For most workloads SMT gives between 25~40%. I would personally want to see comparison between of various workloads with intel's 8C/8T and 8C/16T based on different memory configuration/clock.