Coffee Lake Processors will not be compatible with Series 200 Chipsets
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RzrTrek
I hope Intel will have come to their senses when I upgrade in 2022, but the odds are against them.
KissSh0t
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
Kaarme
And here I was seriously considering selling my Skylake i5 and switching to the 6-core i5. I have no idea why I thought Intel would allow three CPU generations to be used with a single chipset, the socket compatibility aside. History certainly doesn't support such foolishly optimistic notions. Sure, rumours have been repeating that possibility for a long time, but as we all know by now, after Hilbert has said it quite a few times, Intel couldn't care less about press or tech sites anymore, so nothing concerning Intel is official (trustworthy) information before the news site managers (and everybody else) can actually read the stuff from Intel's own web site.
waxbytes
mo' money
cryohellinc
Part of massive scheme. Not only they bribe, but I am also certain to boost sales of Mobo's for every new Intel processor.
DISGUSTING. :bugeye: To be Honest, I thought that now that AMD has given them hell on all fronts Intel will stop this disgusting practice and use the same socket all the way for couple next years. However no, they are still doing the same mistakes.
Well better for AMD. My next build for myself will be Ryzen, question is when as i'm waiting for Ryzen Pro and Ryzen 2, want to see what will happen with those. Recently I've made Ryzen 1800x workstation at my work, and have to say its fantastic for its price.
Go AMD.
Tuoni
In this case it's not a socket change but a chipset change 🙂
Why... all about the money ofc.
BigMaMaInHouse
They called Wallet/ripper for a reason...
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Haha, Walletripper, gotta remember that one 🙂
chronek
Because they can...
mnemo05
ah this.. if only ryzen came out a month earlier i would be rocking a 1800x now, but alas my itchy fingers pulled the trigger on a 7700k..
i wish for AMD's success although I have not used one since the Sempron days 😀
gdallsk
I'm fairly certain that the number of pins and the name of the socket is going to stay the same, they're just gonna move the notches on the socket because reasons...
Turanis
Yes,good one.
They are one of the WalletRipper of the tech industry. 🙂
Silva
Recommended hardware for games is usually a big BS.
This is gold, accurate $hintel description for the past 10 years.
You guys expected the same socket? ahahah :banana:
Wouldn't it be easy to give the motherboard another 50 or 100 more pins and arrange the CPU's so they would work (but with new features disabled perhaps) allowing for at least 3 generations upgrades? Ya, but $hintel needs your money!
Sincerely looking for a used i7 3770 and waiting for Ryzen 2. The cost of a new system isn't worth for me now.
fantaskarsef
Yeah, I too am baffled that people are expecting the same socket to be around longer than one generation. Whenever I bought a new intel rig I was always aware of needing a new mainboard, most of the time you at least got some new features like PCIe 3.0, USB3.0 or something similar out of it.
There have been exceptions of the rule (Haswell - Broadwell for instance), but that's simply because Broadwell was merely an updated Haswell chip.
Size_Mick
If there are no other technical reasons besides that intel doesn't *want* these CPUs to run on 200 (or dare I say it, 100) series chipsets, then maybe some company can come up with an adapter module or something, like in the olden days.
slyphnier
there wont adapter
not sure if there technical level difficulty, such each socket pin work different etc.
but basically intel support mobo maker to produce new mobo, which is give good sales for mobo maker... mobo maker happy = good relation/promotion
some people might think, people will keep buying the old mobo with upgrade
but that means people that already have, for example 200-series wont change their mobo with coffee lake
Loophole35
I'm not defending this move however. How many people upgrade their PC core components more often than 4 years? Honestly I would want a new Motherboard by then. Granted som on SKL and KBL would like 6:12 but really it would have been a small number. I have had my Sandybridge for what almost 8 years now. No way would I want or expect the motherboard and RAM to be compatible with new tech.
RavenMaster
X299 was a huge mess. It's better for Coffee Lake processors to not fit on those motherboards imo.
H83
We were expecting/hoping the same socket because Intel is still stuck on the 14nm node, forcing them to use basically the same cpu since Skylake with minor tweaks. This results in cpus that don´r require new sockets because they are very similar. If Intel was already on the next node, then a new socket would be "normal".
In the end Intel is the one who loses with this move because some who were thinking about upgrading to a six core aren´t going to do it because they need a new board and the ones who are looking to upgrade their new system from scratch are going to think twice about going to Intel and maybe switch to AMD.
Personally i would welcome Coffe Lake support for my system so i could have an possible upgrade path in the future, this way i´m just gonna keep my 7600K for a long time.
schmidtbag
I can't say I'm too surprised by this. Socket 1151 is a minor tweak to 1150 and collectively they have lasted a modestly long time. Considering how much their product lineup has been shifted, they're likely trying to adjust for any headroom they need to compensate for.
Which Sempron days? Semprons have been in production from 2004-2016.
I'm pretty sure the fabrication node has very little to do with needing to replace sockets. For example, an AM3 CPU can be used on an AM2+ and an AM3+ motherboard. That's a range of 65nm to 32nm.
