Rumor: GeForce RTX 4090, RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 > 16384 cores, 24GB GDDR6X, 2.7 GHz, 450W TGP

skylineGTR34

2022-07-07 13:24

Ratilt:

Sell the card and buy a 3080 12GB variant.

No not worth it with rtx 4080 around the corner. If spec are true. It will give me both more vram and more performance over 3080 what ever it is the 10 gb or 12 gb variant. I can wait and will wait for that. Before I got that I sold my GTX 1080 TI but the gpu mining craze and shortage force me to downgrade to gtx 1660 super temporary. So I can live with rtx 3080 for while yet. I have gone throw worse before.

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skylineGTR34

2022-07-07 13:29

alanm:

There was never a single instance the 3080 10gb was let down by lack of vram (to date) even at 4k. All its benches were close enough to the 3090 to prove that. That may not be the case in future games, but so far the 3080 owners did well with all games to date.

Ah no not for me. 10 gb vram is insufficient for my needs. Just as examples. Dying light 2 in 1440P all cranked up uses over 9 gb vram and that's only for 1440P. Far cry 6 in 1440P with HD textures and all cracked to max easily use 9.8 gb vram and it is in fact so bad that the game comes with warnings with low vram at times. So for me at least wanting to game in 4k. 10 gb vram dosent cut it. There you need at least 12 gb vram to make it work with out habe to sacrifice other settings to keep vram usage down.

#6031702

Undying

2022-07-07 13:35

alanm:

There was never a single instance the 3080 10gb was let down by lack of vram (to date) even at 4k. All its benches were close enough to the 3090 to prove that. That may not be the case in future games, but so far the 3080 owners did well with all games to date.

There is few examples like FC6, RE games and Deathloop. Many games are really close to that limit as well. https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Wz8bp4h_1.jpg

#6031703

alanm

2022-07-07 13:36

Anyone who uses the "but my vram usage reported as xxx" hasnt a clue. Difference between vram allocated and actual need are different things.

#6031704

Dragam1337

2022-07-07 13:38

skylineGTR34:

Ah yeah I remember that. 3 gb vram and the gtx 970 sli I had with 4 gb vram was all ready to little back then, so yeah 3 gb the gen before on a high end card was not a smart decision either. It's not fun when you run out of vram before af gpu power. I think the best card nvidia actually maybe ever released whas my all time favorite card = gtx 1080 TI. Good price and amount of vram back when it released.

Yeah, the Titan version of the same chip had 6gb vram - was the only difference between them. Actually even the 6gb version of the 780 non-ti would have been better, especially as i was running sli. I agree, the 1080 ti is perhaps the objectively best gpu they have made in a given point in time 🙂

#6031705

Ivrogne

2022-07-07 13:42

alanm:

There was never a single instance the 3080 10gb was let down by lack of vram (to date) even at 4k. All its benches were close enough to the 3090 to prove that. That may not be the case in future games, but so far the 3080 owners did well with all games to date.

I think they'll going to ran out of horsepower before vram.

#6031706

Dragam1337

2022-07-07 13:43

alanm:

There was never a single instance the 3080 10gb was let down by lack of vram (to date) even at 4k. All its benches were close enough to the 3090 to prove that. That may not be the case in future games, but so far the 3080 owners did well with all games to date.

You do realize that the lack of vram doesn't manifest as lower average fps, unless the vram limition is seriously bad, but rather as stuttering due to vram swapping, right? And that wont show in the kinda benchmarks done on this site, but anyone who has played with a vram limited gpu will have experienced it, and there are many videoes documenting it - hardware unboxed, digital foundry all did videoes showing it.

#6031712

Ghosty

2022-07-07 13:53

If only more consumers knew just how powerful gaming can be with a PC/laptop compared to a console.

#6031714

Undying

2022-07-07 14:02

Ghosty:

If only more consumers knew just how powerful gaming can be with a PC/laptop compared to a console.

They do but then they realize cheapest card here will cost more than a console.

#6031715

skylineGTR34

2022-07-07 14:06

Dragam1337:

You do realize that the lack of vram doesn't manifest as lower average fps, unless the vram limition is seriously bad, but rather as stuttering due to vram swapping, right? And that wont show in the kinda benchmarks done on this site, but anyone who has played with a vram limited gpu will have experienced it, and there are many videoes documenting it - hardware unboxed, digital foundry all did videoes showing it.

I can only agree to that. Running out of vram is not funny. It can be a stuttering/laggy mess and in worse cases. A game can actually crash do to little vram. I lost a multi-player battle of that exact problem and since then I have been very cautious to be sure to have enough vram. I hate losing a game fight because of lag and game crash. Specially if it is hardware related as to little vram. I don't need 100 fps+ but I do want my eye candy to be as good as possible amd that recurring enough vram. Else it dosent end well.

#6031716

alanm

2022-07-07 14:07

Dragam1337:

You do realize that the lack of vram doesn't manifest as lower average fps, unless the vram limition is seriously bad, but rather as stuttering due to vram swapping, right? And that wont show in the kinda benchmarks done on this site, but anyone who has played with a vram limited gpu will have experienced it, and there are many videoes documenting it - hardware unboxed, digital foundry all did videoes showing it.

Pretty sure there are many videos showing higher powered, higher vram cards outperforming lower vram cards. But only way to properly demonstrate that are with identical cards, clocks, specs with only different vram capacities. Cant think of any current or recent. But I would be very interested to see how a 3080ti would measure up to a 3090 with its double vram capacity in heavy vram scenarios. Pretty sure no instances of that exists on the web.

#6031717

Ghosty

2022-07-07 14:07

Undying:

They do but then they realize cheapest card here will cost more than a console.

That's not factoring in the TV to play the games at 120Hz/4K/60. But everyone has a TV, they just like to plug and play.

#6031718

alanm

2022-07-07 14:09

skylineGTR34:

I can only agree to that. Running out of vram is not funny. It can be a stuttering/laggy mess and in worse cases. A game can actually crash do to little vram. I lost a multi-player battle of that exact problem and since then I have been very cautious to be sure to have enough vram. I hate losing a game fight because of lag and game crash. Specially if it is hardware related as to little vram. I don't need 100 fps+ but I do want my eye candy to be as good as possible amd that recurring enough vram. Else it dosent end well.

Weak cards cant make much use of more vram.

#6031719

skylineGTR34

2022-07-07 14:12

alanm:

Weak cards cant make much use of more vram.

Correct. But as you might see, I don't use weak cards. Cause they could never satisfy me with the game settings I want. I only use hign end cards. Specially after sli is dead. Only high end cards have what I need. That will be enough gpu power and vram.

#6031720

alanm

2022-07-07 14:12

Undying:

There is few examples like FC6, RE games and Deathloop. Many games are really close to that limit as well. https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Wz8bp4h_1.jpg

What was the card? Pretty sure it wasnt a 3080 10gb that I used as an example. 😀

#6031722

Undying

2022-07-07 14:14

alanm:

What was the card? Pretty sure it wasnt a 3080 10gb that I used as an example. 😀

Thats a 3080 with a vram warning. Enabling raytracing does increase the vram usage. So making an argument my card have a superior raytracing does not apply here. :P

#6031724

Dragam1337

2022-07-07 14:16

alanm:

Pretty sure there are many videos showing higher powered, higher vram cards outperforming lower vram cards. But only way to properly demonstrate that are with identical cards, clocks, specs with only different vram capacities. Cant think of any current or recent. But I would be very interested to see how a 3080ti would measure up to a 3090 with its double vram capacity in heavy vram scenarios. Pretty sure no instances of that exists on the web.

Aaaaand you understood exactly nothing of what i wrote.

#6031726

alanm

2022-07-07 14:19

Undying:

Thats a 3080 with a vram warning. Enabling raytracing does increase the vram usage. So making an argument my card have a superior raytracing does not apply here. 😛

Oh! I thought the card specs were blurred out because it was a weak card. Well maybe I'm out of the loop with more recent games.

#6031727

alanm

2022-07-07 14:22

Dragam1337:

Aaaaand you understood exactly nothing of what i wrote - as per usual.

So ppl will have to rely on user experience (which can be affected by multiple variables) rather than actual measurable scenarios? OK, got it.

#6031729

Undying

2022-07-07 14:24

alanm:

Oh! I thought the card specs were blurred out because it was a weak card. Well maybe I'm out of the loop with more recent games.

Image is blurred becouse its in the background. Check out the monitoring in the left. 320w usage its a 3080 10gb, it was a reddit post of a guy complaning as usual. 😀 4070 should be 3080ti level of performance. Im sure it does have enough horse power.