ASRock To Offer H110 Pro BTC+ Mining Motherboard for 13 GPUs
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Aura89
Some of those 1x ports will allow cards with more then 1x to work, while others will not...why? I don't know if any GPU that uses 1x, and though i understand that mining doesn't really care about bandwidth, that's not the issue. If there no cards that use 1x, then how could it hold 13 GPUs?
At best, as far as i can see, it can hold 6 GPUs, and 7 1x random cards of some sort (assuming everything uses a single-slot cooler)
If anyone is confused what i am talking about, take a close look at the white PCI-express 1x ports, which are not open at the end, compared to the black PCI-Express 1x ports, which are open at the end.
Basically this:
http://blog.zorinaq.com/assets/tiptocutpciex1.jpg
vs this
http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_139565_3.jpg
I guess, maybe they expect everyone to use the black ports normally, while using the white ports with PCI-Express extensions and mount them somewhere else? (like normal mining machines?)
Aura89
Also, is there a reason they use old molex connectors for additional PCI-Express power, rather then a sata power connector?
SetsunaFZero
Doesn't matter when you use PCIe raisers.
And to your 2nd question, the molex power variant is the old on. Newer PCIe rasiers use Sata or usb3.0 cable for power transfer only.
BLEH!
Molex can deliver more power, I believe.
Aura89
Thats what i said at the bottom, granted though i still things thats a bit odd to "expect" people to use risers on a motherboard, and therefore prevent people from using it directly on the motherboard (though that would be a massive heat built up)
Yeah i know people who would buy this are almost guaranteed to use risers. I understand that. But i just don't understand the why asrock would, essentially, "force" people to use risers, rather then just put all the same type of PCI-Express 1x slot with a notch in it to allow GPUs
That makes sense.
rl66
1st point, the PCIe is not used like in normal motherboard, x1 is far than enough as the GPU work by itself (and so a sempron or celeron only is needed 🙂 ) on minning.
about the "open" PCIe x1 and the closed... the "open" one is needed to fit the PCIe X8 or X16 of the GPU card, but only the X1 line are used
the molex is more secured and easy to use (don't forget that you can have an external 2nd PSU for GPU in minning rig). and can fit more power too (more rustic 🙂 )
k3vst3r
more than 1 gpu on sata it burns the plug.
Aura89
That's...like everything i just said, i don't think you understood my question, and i'm not trying to be irritating, but i'm not sure how to re-word the question
Like, i even stated in my post that i know GPU bandwidth isn't an issue, so that 1x works
I also stated i understood why some of the PCIe 1x had an opening in the back, and that it made sense.
My entire question was why there are PCIe 1x slots on there that are NOT open in the back.
The answer to this is probably that they expect you to use a riser card in those slots anyways, the problem with this answer is that it still does not make sense why all of them are not the black 1x slots with the opening in the back, why have two different kind of PCIe 1x slots when it serves no purpose other then to limit the use of the white PCIe 1x slots to "riser slots only"
schmidtbag
A couple things to point out:
1. There are GPUs out there that use x1 slots, though they're very uncommon. Here are some examples:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&SrchInDesc=x1&Page=1&PageSize=36&order=BESTMATCH
2. PCIe is scalable. If you really wanted to, you can put a Titan XP in a x1 slot and it will run, just very poorly (it'd probably be bottlenecked even for mining purposes). I have experimented with GPUs in physical x1 slots, and though its a bit surprising how much performance you get out of it, you lose a lot for gaming purposes.
For modern GPUs in a PCIe 3.0 x1 slot, I'd say a 1030 or a 450 would probably see little to no performance loss.
This is probably to intentionally prevent people from plugging the GPUs into these slots, as they won't align with the chassis brackets.
TheDeeGee
More GPU shortage incoming!
waczze
When will this bitcoin craze end? I desperately want to upgrade my GPU to either GTX1060 or GTX1070, but they're too expensive. 🙁
cowie
holy jeez
I think these guys buy all the freaken gpu's more or as many as newegg
Aura89
Did not realize that
Prince Valiant
It's hard to say when it will end. If a crash doesn't happen sometime soon it may be a while. What we really need is someone to figure out how to break these and make hashing next to impossible with GPUs.
RealNC
On the image you posted, there's 12 x1 slots, not 13.
Aura89
So you want to purposefully make it so someone can't make money, or make it hard for them to make money, just because you're inconvenienced?
Cool story bro.
schmidtbag
I respect those who work hard for their money, not those who hardly work. People who mine for cryptocurrencies for a living are incredibly lazy, to the point that their laziness is destructive for reasons you may not have realized.
Many miners (note, the ones who set up farms involving hundreds or even thousands of GPUs) will attempt to RMA all of them as soon as results starts to die down. This then leaves the manufacturers overwhelmed with perfectly good but used hardware that they have to refurbish, which is a major loss and a waste of everyone's time. Then, the market gets flooded with these cheap GPUs which many gamers decide to buy instead of new hardware. In addition to all of this, all the accessories that may go with buying a GPU or gaming PC are not being purchased. To people new to PC gaming, the platform looks bad when they either have to buy 3-year-old hardware, used hardware, or spend triple what it would cost to get a console. In other words, the PC gaming ecosystem is losing customers.
Miners are a cascade of problems. I have absolutely no problem with people using their current PCs to mine for cryptocurrency. If that's what you like to get into, fine. But people who put together mining farms are, to put it bluntly, *******s.
k3vst3r
Yeah some people went a little crazy.
https://image.ibb.co/ioOBqF/omfg.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/fRti4a/haha_too_many.jpg
D3M1G0D
Might not have to wait for long.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8261/ethereum-mining-dead-price-drops-difficulty-booms/index.html
Ethereum is trading for around $200 today. Considering that it was at $350 a month ago, this is a very steep drop. Also, the difficulty has shot up with the recent DAG, and the combination of the two makes mining far less profitable than before. If this keeps up then the mining boom may be all but over.
Valken
I am just curious on the ROI per gpu. I can't find a site that would calculate it but it seems it would take a single 1080 or 1080Ti to recoup its costs in 9 months to a year of mining? If so, fuggetaboutit!
