Hmm well a Zen3 "Ripper" seems plausible would have thought these had more cores and then scaled down in later models starting with the 32's or 64's even but this matches the highest core count with the 5950X I think yeah and as a ThreadRipper now on Zen3 so updates to the TR4 platform and motherboards I would think also should be incoming same as Zen3 support on 500 series boards after bios updates. Separate code too here so probably less to do with the work on fixing up remaining AGESA 1.1.0.0 and newer and support for Ryzen 5000 interesting anyway whether it's getting that resolved first or just needing some more time to make Thread Rippers out of the Zen3 now that the desktop chips are in full production. Wonder what these will have on the existing Thread Rippers, similar advantages I suppose as on the desktop Zen3's guess it's a good idea moving them to the newest process. EDIT: And then the whole allocation and wafers and production, TSMC's going to have a lot of orders to fill but if that plant that's under construction gets active this year maybe that will help. (Could be a while though for that to hit full production capacity first.) EDIT: Should be good though, hardware fixes and other improvements here, higher clock speeds and all that too.

Treadrippers are overkill for my usage but I would not say no to one . Beastly cpu's

Oh man! I'll be standing by @Hilbert Hagedoorn for some beautiful reviews comparing the previous gen 24 core up against their newest offerings. Hoping for a close to all core 5Ghz on a 24 core baby! Already get an all core of 4.35Ghz on my 3960X and that's only with fine tuning the TDC, EDC and PPT. Almost 400 watts and that baby sits in the 60-65C range. Still thinking of getting my Optimus block that's still available on it. Maybe drop another ten degrees from my velocity block!!

A 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper seems strange. I guess the purpose is to get you to buy a more expensive motherboard as you plan to start with a 16 core and move up later. I don't expect that the 5950X and a 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper to be miles apart.

Im sure AMD didnt increase the core count of TR3 becouse Intel cant catch up. Even 11gen have 100% less cores. 😀

I miss the days I could afford a i7 SandyBridge-E, like my 3930k. It did fantastic, even far passed the switch to DDR4 era. I really think the quad memory did it's thing there. Played all games I wanted till April 2020 but did indeed bottleneck my 1080ti at lower res. I wish I could do that again, a CPU with a good amount of cores and corespeed / cache strickly for games and not worry about memory and PCIe lanes for YEARS to come. Alas, whereas the 3930k was €500 in 2012, the newest HEDT now is what, €1000? Same with the motherboard: MSI X79A-GB65 8D was around €230 I believe... try finding me a high end motherboard for that price or slightly higher, lol. I'll stick with a Asus Strix motherboard and higher midrange CPU like 5600x or so...

nosirrahx:

A 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper seems strange. I guess the purpose is to get you to buy a more expensive motherboard as you plan to start with a 16 core and move up later. I don't expect that the 5950X and a 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper to be miles apart.

No is not. Atm we are relying on 1950X and used 2950X for our mGPU ML setups as upgrage to 3960X/3970X/3990X series is getting too unjustifiable expensive. However a cheap 16 core TR4 at price bit over the 5950X many of us would upgrade to it.

nosirrahx:

A 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper seems strange. I guess the purpose is to get you to buy a more expensive motherboard as you plan to start with a 16 core and move up later. I don't expect that the 5950X and a 16 core Zen 3 Threadripper to be miles apart.

Yea cause the motherboard for TR do not have way ton more features then the normal x boards for Ryzen. ROFL. If you think its to get someone to buy a more expensive board, you are a certain level of smarts we will not even discuss.

Chess:

I miss the days I could afford a i7 SandyBridge-E, like my 3930k. It did fantastic, even far passed the switch to DDR4 era. I really think the quad memory did it's thing there. Played all games I wanted till April 2020 but did indeed bottleneck my 1080ti at lower res. I wish I could do that again, a CPU with a good amount of cores and corespeed / cache strickly for games and not worry about memory and PCIe lanes for YEARS to come. Alas, whereas the 3930k was €500 in 2012, the newest HEDT now is what, €1000? Same with the motherboard: MSI X79A-GB65 8D was around €230 I believe... try finding me a high end motherboard for that price or slightly higher, lol. I'll stick with a Asus Strix motherboard and higher midrange CPU like 5600x or so...

I had the 3930k, and it was over priced as hell. It was barely faster then my X5650 I had when both were overclocked. Unless you were running more then 2 gpus, X79 was not worth it much. In fact, I actually ditched my 3930k for a R5 1500x setup in Sep 2017. X79 boards were not cheap either. My Asus was $350 for a 2012 board.

I think this product makes sense. Depending on your workload, maybe all you care about is memory bandwidth (particularly with ECC) or extra PCIe lanes. I wouldn't be surprised if such a CPU could overclock better, and, the CPU itself might actually be cheaper than a 3950X if they use 4x quad core chiplets (since those aren't really all that valuable anymore). I could see this being a very appealing choice for a very high-performance NAS, or a GPU rendering server.

Agonist:

Yea cause the motherboard for TR do not have way ton more features then the normal x boards for Ryzen. ROFL. If you think its to get someone to buy a more expensive board, you are a certain level of smarts we will not even discuss.

My dude, the guy explicitly justified his use of a TR platform. It may not have "ton more features" but for a mGPU setup, having 20 pcie lanes vs +56 available to the (again, multiple i.e. 3\4) GPUs, especially in ML workloads where data is constantly being transmitted, is near indispensable. Next time, read the whole post and think on it a couple seconds before you start implying about "certain level of smarts".

had 3960x + MSI Creator motherboard sold the cpu before xmas after seeing the massive improvement between 3000 and 5000 kept the motherboard like many people you will find in threadripper topics I have zero use for 24 cores all I needed are the lanes for M.2 drives (which are now taking dust in a drawer) storage, usb, 10gbit network, addon pcie cards which I can't use on intel since it only has 16 pcie 3.0 lanes I will definitely get a 16 cores if it's real

Agonist:

I had the 3930k, and it was over priced as hell. It was barely faster then my X5650 I had when both were overclocked. Unless you were running more then 2 gpus, X79 was not worth it much. In fact, I actually ditched my 3930k for a R5 1500x setup in Sep 2017. X79 boards were not cheap either. My Asus was $350 for a 2012 board.

My previous PC was a C2D E8400. The 3930k was a future proof BIG step up. It ran for exactly 8 years. It overclocked nicely to a conservative 4.2Ghz, used 1600 instead of 1333 ram, had intel gigabyte ethernet, had diagnostic LEDs and I believe ( not tooo sure ) had all Sata3 for my SSDs with USB3.0 simultaneous ( prev. boards that I looked at didn't have that ) It ran 2x780Ti's for a while, I later upgraded to a 4x m.2 PCIe card. It was the most stable, reliable system I had for that long. For that price, at 8 years? Worth it for me.

Interestingly I’d wager a guess that quad channel ram would make it the fastest gaming chip since the 5950x runs into memory bandwidth issues.

The paint is not even dry on the cheque I wrote for new years' eve party, and here we are talking about the end of the year already...can I get over the hangover first? Also: https://digital.ces.tech/sessions/123407f2-3ad9-4b35-9155-f676b7006e7c?source=sessions AMD have got a Keynote at CES on the 12th