AMD Zen 2 nm architecture starts with EPYC CPUs - Talks 5nm also
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cryohellinc
While AMD has already plans for 5nm, Intel is fine-tuning their 14nm+++++++++++ process.
Looking forward to Zen 2.
Fox2232
I wonder why they are asking questions which have been already answered. 7nm were sampling some time ago. By now they are likely in process of ramping up production. Q1 2019 is almost certain as they will not take year from finishing design and successful sampling to release. Ryzen 3xxx Q1 may be possible too. Maybe early Q2.
They should ask questions closer to metal. Like how much more power efficient 7nm is. Or if they achieved clock improvement target.
Those were not answered, yet and there is good chance that some nice bits of info will come.
cryohellinc
Fox2232
Venix
I wonder if we will have to bench games on 480 p with those so we can declare intel the gaming king again!
cryohellinc
yeeeman
wavetrex
Fox2232
schmidtbag
Seems like a wise decision to have Epyc get first treatment, for a few reasons:
1. Now that Ryzen has proved its worth, the server market is where AMD's real money will come in.
2. AMD can offer higher core counts than Intel and at significantly lower prices (you can buy an entire fully-equipped 32-core Epyc server for the price of just a 28-core Xeon) while having competitive performance. Zen 2 will be even more compelling. The sooner they get a head-start on this lead, the more profit they'll make. Intel will eventually make a product that is more competitively priced.
3. Servers don't tend to care about very high clock speeds. As everyone knows, higher clock speeds tend to affect stability. GloFo and TSMC may have figured out how to get 7nm, but it probably isn't refined enough for desktop use with higher clock speeds. If Epyc still doesn't buy AMD enough time, they could also focus on mobile chips, which also don't need high clock speeds. Hopefully by the time those are released, these companies will have got 7nm totally figured out. This of course is assuming there are even clock speed issues with 7nm in the first place.
anticupidon
Zen 2 sounds more and more like my next upgrade.
HWgeek
tunejunky
favelle75
Jesus ,that title reads like AMD is planning a 2nm CPU ..
JamesSneed
"AMD Zen 2 nm architecture starts with EPYC CPUs - Talks 5nm also" Think there is a 7 missing in there somewhere...
schmitbag, my thoughts pretty much. The GloFlo 7nm process was built for very high frequencies of which you really won't need in 99.9% of the server CPU market. As long as TSMC's process gets significantly high enough in frequencies and does it without a ton of heat then this approach could be genius. AMD will also have a lot more production capability splitting up enterprise and and desktop manufacturing. I suspect both the server and desktop products are going to be a huge success and AMD will need the expanded manufacturing capabilities. Lisa Su is on a freaking role.
JamesSneed
Irenicus
5nm is still years away. 2021 at the earliest
On every PC, ever, there is always a bottleneck. Always. To think otherwise either you're expressing it in a way to exaggerate for effect, or if you truly believe that, you don't actually understand how bottlenecking works or what it means.
4.2 is a bit low for that CPU. Unstable "lately" ? That means either one of two things. The CPU is dying, was always unstable but now is becoming more apparent, or you have too much dust in your heatsink etc. Or maybe just the wrong combo of bios settings (LLC etc).
BetA
that "Title" is very irritating...
at first i thought,m whaaat 2nm??? where, how, what...
the wording is a little irritating.
HeavyHemi
D3M1G0D
If AMD can start shipping 7nm EPYCs by next year then that'll be a major win. Intel won't have their 10nm stuff ready for servers by at least 2020 (and that's assuming there are no more delays). 48-core EPYC on 7nm vs 28-core Xeon on 14nm = no contest.