AMD to launch Zen 4 and RDNA 3 both in Q4 2022

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The solution to over priced hardware at the moment, play older games. There are plenty of AAA titles that are a few years old I can downloaded from my libraries of games and play them with no issues. No need to go spend 1000 - 2000 or more on a gpu when current hardware will play any of the older games just fine. I just reinstalled AC Origins and its great. I think its also really convenient how high prices all jumped right after USA got stimulus checks. Like oh your government gave you extra money, lets throw on an extra 1400$ per gpu then that will make up the difference. If prices keep going up then I wont have to worry about it anymore cause I will stop using computers. I can go to Hawaii from across the world for a week for LESS than the price of 1 GPU, think about that.
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IceZero09:

Is AMD going to have a CPU and MB refresh before then? Is there going to be a Zen 3+ and/or new X570 (X570 MBs are a bit old now) motherboards? I've still been trying to get a video card the past 7 months or so. I had an RX 5700 XT, but sold it just before November and downgraded to a GTX 1070 which I only intended to use as a stopgap card šŸ™. I should have kept the 5700 XT as I would have been content to wait longer if I still had it. Oh well, didn't know these shortages were going to happen.
If they release Zen 4 by the end of 2022, i.e. 2 years after zen 3, then i would guess they will likely release zen 3+ in between.
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Vananovion:

It would be interesting, but I don't think they are going to release 5000 series with 3d cache. I'd say they just slapped it on 5000 series for now for testing, development and demonstration purposes. It would make a lot more sense to keep it for brand new products.
It's very unlikely they spend 2 years without releasing any desktop cpu though. Also i doubt they would announce 3d cache now but release it only a year and a half later. 5000 with 3d cache the end of 2021 or early 2022 would not be surprising at all. It gives a chance to test it with proven hardware. Gather info to makes improvement for Zen 4 later in 2002.
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PrMinisterGR:

As a person using several, but owning none, I would say that they deserve it, and there are good reasons they can do it.
If you own none, doesn't that mean you don't consider them worth the high price?
H83:

IĀ“m not a fan of Apple but you really canĀ“t blame them on this one, itĀ“s not their fault that thereĀ“s insufficient foundry capacity worldwide. Ironically we should thank them for the current capacity and wafer advancement because they are the one of the few companies rich enough to help finance all this in advance, thatĀ“s way they have priority on the best nodes and on wafer capacity.
Yeah, I don't really blame them for it, it's just how it works and they have gamed the system. But I still think it's no good when the whole universe seems to be lacking chips. On the other hand, currently AMD or Nvidia didn't even have anything to make on the 5nm process. It's possible the process wasn't ready for high power chips back when they were making the decisions. Apple's M1 is still an ARM processor, which are low power. I don't think TSMC is making the same mistake as GF and hesitating about investing in R&D. Of the big players, GF is the only one that mysteriously thought 7nm isn't worth it. I'm sure GF is running at full capacity as well, but they must be making integrated custom stuff that nobody ever hears about anymore. With or without Apple, TSMC would be pushing forward. But sure, Apple's money would help since it's willing to pay even more than others.
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MonstroMart:

It's very unlikely they spend 2 years without releasing any desktop cpu though. Also i doubt they would announce 3d cache now but release it only a year and a half later. 5000 with 3d cache the end of 2021 or early 2022 would not be surprising at all. It gives a chance to test it with proven hardware. Gather info to makes improvement for Zen 4 later in 2002.
not to mention it's a good send off party for AM4
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Silva:

People are willing to pay, Apple is just securing the means paying whatever TSMC wants. Remember that to buy wafer allocation it is a bid process, the highest bider wins. So, the only ones to blame are the sheep who buys a new Apple device every year just because of the social status. Those who keep their devices for at least 3 years are the only normal users that I respect.
My phones are on a 4 year upgrade cycle. Usually get a new battery at the 2 year mark. Has worked out just fine.
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Maybe just me, but the idea/talk of anything hardware wise releasing any time in the next two years just doesn't make me interested..... Just the idea that parts will be non-existent as they are now gives me nothing to look forward to given current situations.
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DeskStar:

Maybe just me, but the idea/talk of anything hardware wise releasing any time in the next two years just doesn't make me interested..... Just the idea that parts will be non-existent as they are now gives me nothing to look forward to given current situations.
It's just GPU though anyway in Canada it is. Outside of the 5950x you can currently buy all the Ryzen 5k cpu and Intel 11th at very close to MSRP in Canada.
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Won't jump on DDR5 bandwagon early on, but a new GPU would be nice. Hopefully the market has come back to normal by then.
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Undying:

I didnt upgrade my 2700x for that reason. Zen4 will be blazing fast.
I wish my 2700x was. I would have stayed with it. But I still dont regret getting an X570 and 5600x for $450 total.
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AM5 won't be long now. I'd expect it in early 2022 and it may have DDR5 and PCIe5 or it may not, DDR5 is a certain feature and a smaller node on the chipset might also be down to 5nm. Honestly though i doubt we'll see massive performance improvements from this point on. I think 7nm could be used for a lot longer than say 12nm was. I expect to see a 7nm refresh soon too, basically a 7nm++. PCIe 4 is still pretty new and probably under used. I don't see a difference between PCIe 4 and 5 really so is it worth it. There's not much difference in PCIe 3 and 4 already anyway.
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does nvidia have to get behind apple in line too? lol that is crazy...but apple has many, many problems I'm sure but money ain't one of them
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yes because releasing 40 products in 4 weeks worked so well in 2020..oh wait no it didn't
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We still waiting for RDNA 2 launch.
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A 5000 (5900/5950) series CPU with 3d cache at the end of the year looks like my next upgrade, I don't think I''ll be making the leap to AM5 anytime soon. Just like my move to Ryzen, I'd waited till after two iterations of the architecture with greater maturity of chipset drivers and BIOS before I'd made the move. Meanwhile, IF FSR bring good uplift in performance with some but acceptable image quality drop especially with RT enabled, I'd be hanging on to my RX 6900 XT. For regular rasterized games, the RX 6900 XT doesn't need FSR as it's a beast, plus I game at exactly 1/2 4K so that helps a lot.
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mikeysg:

A 5000 (5900/5950) series CPU with 3d cache at the end of the year looks like my next upgrade, I don't think I''ll be making the leap to AM5 anytime soon. Just like my move to Ryzen, I'd waited till after two iterations of the architecture with greater maturity of chipset drivers and BIOS before I'd made the move.
Same here, I look forward to a 5950XT or whatever they will call it, that I can just pop in to replace my 3900X. Of course availability plays a big role here, so I hope they won't rush it while the shortages are still strong.
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Solfaur:

Same here, I look forward to a 5950XT or whatever they will call it, that I can just pop in to replace my 3900X. Of course availability plays a big role here, so I hope they won't rush it while the shortages are still strong.
That is just not worth it at this point. You'd better wait for zen4.
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My speculation is that they will release a 6xxx series cpu line or just few models with stacked memory on top at least some models . But if they do i wonder how thermals will be i mean they will go up .... Right ? If they go up this will affect the final frequency too no ?
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Good job AMD that worked out so well this time releasing cpus and gpus.
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^Sarcasm mode?