"I learned at the AMD event that 4 GHz on ALL cores only needs 1.325~1.350 Volts on the processor. ALL Threadripper processors get fitted with the top 2% dies fitted onto the package" - Well that makes it quite interesting for enthusiasts and overclockers. Unfortunately that 4GHz(+-) OC limit on air/water still destroys it for me. If only Ryzens could reach 5GHz on air ...

good luck with the intel cpu 8 cores + reaching 5ghz on air then !

Heineken cooled, that's the secret!

LOL look at the year 2066

AMD have also invented a time machine!!

I think the announcement of the 8-core 16-thread 1900X Threadripper @ an MSRP of $549 is pretty darned exciting, since it supports 60 PCIex lanes (plus 4 more for the system)...! (As I understand the advance info on it.) Going with the Threadripper socket and motherboard might just be the way to go...!

Year 2066 As explained by AMD CEO (Mr. Kung Fu Tse), this series of chips are designated "HGW" ("Herbert George Wells" edition):banana:

good luck with the intel cpu 8 cores + reaching 5ghz on air then !

Are you trolling or just AMD Uber fanboy? How about 10 cores @ 5Ghz? will that do it for you? 7900x doing 4.8Ghz before deliding and 5Ghz after deliding on AIO water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI

Are you trolling or just AMD Uber fanboy? How about 10 cores @ 5Ghz? will that do it for you? 7900x doing 4.8Ghz before deliding and 5Ghz after deliding on AIO water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI

No, there isn't such thing as AMD UBER fanboy - the guys are either AMD fanboys or just the regular guys... Once they become AMD fanboys, no fanboy can get uber them... Honestly, by that time (year 2066) AMD might catch up with Intel...Maybe (just maybe) even with NV...Providing that both (Intel and NV) dismiss their research teams as of now...

Honestly, by that time (year 2066) AMD might catch up with Intel...

Hey look, it's a troll who disregards the year 2017 as fact.

Are you trolling or just AMD Uber fanboy? How about 10 cores @ 5Ghz? will that do it for you? 7900x doing 4.8Ghz before deliding and 5Ghz after deliding on AIO water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI

I'm not sure what it is you are trying to say here. You clearly quoted someone, who quoted someone, about on air. Then you reply, and say it's possible to get to 4.8Ghz, 5Ghz, on air, but on water? I mean, you must have meant air, because you REPLIED to a post about air, right? But then, it's on water? What exactly are you trying to say?

Hey look, it's a troll who disregards the year 2017 as fact. I'm not sure what it is you are trying to say here. You clearly quoted someone, who quoted someone, about on air. Then you reply, and say it's possible to get to 4.8Ghz, 5Ghz, on air, but on water? I mean, you must have meant air, because you REPLIED to a post about air, right? But then, it's on water? What exactly are you trying to say?

I missed the air part, my bad, but my comment still stands. AMD fanboys been spreading anti intel propaganda and exploding meems, like if new HEDT CPUs exploding atomic reactors, which in fact is wrong and they overclock fine even on AIO WC kits that cost no more than top shelf air kits. After reading today that TR 8C/10T CPU will be just 50$ less than Intels 8 Core HEDT, the only thing that works in favor of TR is more PCIe, which for me is not really important, i never go SLI and prefer single fastest GPU, and de-lided 5Ghz will be faster than TR 8C no mater how fast they manage to overclock it, because it will never achieve 5Ghz, only on LN. TR is a good idea BUT there is no argument that Intel is king in SC performance, and if you do gaming and hobby streaming/video encoding than 6/8 core is all that you need, over 90% of soft and games uses 2-4 cores, very rare games like Crysis utilize 8 and more. So fast 6 or 8 core CPU is in fact a better than 4Gz 16 Core cpu if you game and stream. Right now there is no single Ryzen that beats my CPU in SC benchmarks and gaming benchmarks, only in synthetic benchmarks that use 8 cores and mine is old Haswell-e. Ill wait for TR reviews and if it the 8 core can do at least 4.4-4.5Ghz on WC ill buy it to get all the PCIe lanes so i could slowly replace my SSDs with NVMe variants and because unlike Intel they said that they going to keep the same socket for long, which is very pro-consumer move IMO. On the otehr hand, I prefer to support local business so supporting Intel has national value.

No, there isn't such thing as AMD UBER fanboy - the guys are either AMD fanboys or just the regular guys... Once they become AMD fanboys, no fanboy can get uber them... Honestly, by that time (year 2066) AMD might catch up with Intel...Maybe (just maybe) even with NV...Providing that both (Intel and NV) dismiss their research teams as of now...

Actually Nintendo fanboys Invented the the term fanboy! AMD and APPLE fanboys get lessons from Nintendo fanboys on how top be an UBER MEGA HYPER Fanboy!

those are the exact words der8auer word to word in the video 0:55 -1:11 "with the stock intel paste i was able to reach 4.8 using only conrsair AIO 280 so there is headroom i guess if you use custom loop watter cooling you might be able to hit 4.9 on a very good chip" all that while he is showing core temps of 88c~93c 2:12-2:45 "the system was running stable 1 hour prime 95 non avx load and we hit tempratures of about 88 to about 90 degrees max so this is maxed on the corsair AIO i think you can maybe hit 5.1 on a custom water loop if you have a very good chip keep in mind this chip use is already pretested so is already a pretty good cpu so on average cpu you might be able to get 4.7~4.8 if you delided it " this is about the 10 core cpu i do not hear anywhere on the test talking about he was able to do that on air cooling but after i told good luck hitting 5ghz on air , apparently i am either a troll or or amd fanboy because i believe that 5ghz are not possible on air ((not with reasonable temps anyway)) while he talks like 5ghz on air is something possible if you notice again i talked specifically the comment on air , and the consuption and temps except if a mirracle ocour will rise as you add more cores , so yeah my statement remains good luck reaching 5ghz on 8~18 intel core cpu's on AIR , i guess stating facts nowdays makes you a troll or a fanboy ((megaFalloutfan said he missed the part i mention air so i assume he sees i was not trolling so my post above is directed to DLD))

I missed the air part, my bad, but my comment still stands. AMD fanboys been spreading anti intel propaganda and exploding meems, like if new HEDT CPUs exploding atomic reactors, which in fact is wrong and they overclock fine even on AIO WC kits that cost no more than top shelf air kits. After reading today that TR 8C/10T CPU will be just 50$ less than Intels 8 Core HEDT, the only thing that works in favor of TR is more PCIe, which for me is not really important, i never go SLI and prefer single fastest GPU, and de-lided 5Ghz will be faster than TR 8C no mater how fast they manage to overclock it, because it will never achieve 5Ghz, only on LN. TR is a good idea BUT there is no argument that Intel is king in SC performance, and if you do gaming and hobby streaming/video encoding than 6/8 core is all that you need, over 90% of soft and games uses 2-4 cores, very rare games like Crysis utilize 8 and more. So fast 6 or 8 core CPU is in fact a better than 4Gz 16 Core cpu if you game and stream. Right now there is no single Ryzen that beats my CPU in SC benchmarks and gaming benchmarks, only in synthetic benchmarks that use 8 cores and mine is old Haswell-e. Ill wait for TR reviews and if it the 8 core can do at least 4.4-4.5Ghz on WC ill buy it to get all the PCIe lanes so i could slowly replace my SSDs with NVMe variants and because unlike Intel they said that they going to keep the same socket for long, which is very pro-consumer move IMO. On the otehr hand, I prefer to support local business so supporting Intel has national value.

TR will not reach 4.4 4.5 ghz at all they are the very same zeppelin dies that are reaching max 3.9~4.1 depending on the silicon lottery in this case except if amd pull a miracle also in amd , yes you will be crazy to change your cpu right now especially for gaming , i never said TR will be better, and the nuke reaction comment was a comment i made on another thread and i was obviously exaggerating to extreme levels for the shakes of comedy do i need to state on a such extreme joke that i am actually kidding? Or somehow that seems like a valid claim that i try to spread ? also neither amd or intel are local businesses they are very much international not sure how a statement supporting local businesses or national value arguments are relevant to temps on a cpu ...but sure i guess

on a pos mb I guess that's not bad 3d vantage and 3d11 would be good benches to do a battle.you need gpu but the cores/speed of the cpu really helps since gpu side is low res. pretty much who ever is faster in those two benches is the best cpu for p/p see above

TR is a good idea BUT there is no argument that Intel is king in SC performance, and if you do gaming and hobby streaming/video encoding than 6/8 core is all that you need, over 90% of soft and games uses 2-4 cores, very rare games like Crysis utilize 8 and more. So fast 6 or 8 core CPU is in fact a better than 4Gz 16 Core cpu if you game and stream. Right now there is no single Ryzen that beats my CPU in SC benchmarks and gaming benchmarks, only in synthetic benchmarks that use 8 cores and mine is old Haswell-e.

Yes, single-core performance matters in games, and the typical consumer does not need more than 6 cores. However, this is HEDT chips we're talking about here, not consumer gaming chips. Single core performance matter very little when it comes to high-end desktop chips; it is mostly multi-core performance which matters. For instance, I bought a Ryzen 7 when it was released, but I did not do it for gaming or streaming. Instead, I bought it for the express purpose of distributed computing, which makes effective use of all cores, and it has more than lived up to my expectations (even at 3.8 GHz, it thoroughly outperforms my Haswell running at 4.4 GHz, producing nearly twice the points in World Community Grid). This is also the reason why I plan on getting TR - I am interested in the massive, parallel-computing capabilities of these chips, not in gaming, streaming or single-core tasks.

On the otehr hand, I prefer to support local business so supporting Intel has national value.

What in the world are you talking about? Both Intel and AMD are US companies.

Are you trolling or just AMD Uber fanboy? How about 10 cores @ 5Ghz? will that do it for you? 7900x doing 4.8Ghz before deliding and 5Ghz after deliding on AIO water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoies2JcmI

4.8 with slight throttling on a very good chip. Video just tells you how bad their crap between IHS and CPU is. If intel soldered CPUs, they would have to double the price of these 10 core chips because soldering is really expensive these days!