AMD Says RDNA3 50% Perf/Watt increase and mentions RDNA4

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cucaulay malkin:

here comes amd marketing departament well it's slower than 3070 and costs more so it's a pretty extravagant rockstar
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I have ZERO idea where YOU are at but RX6750 is cheaper than RTX3070 do not characterize me
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tunejunky:

I have ZERO idea where YOU are at but RX6750 is cheaper than RTX3070
correct, they were higher initially but went down they're about 10eur lower than 3070 atm I'm in EU And that's how you really sound to us. your posts just read like adverts that's just true the best bang for the buck card was and is still 3060ti, dunno about 6750xt but it's priced the same as 3070 and it loses at most resolutions except for 1080p maybe.not even taking rt into the equasion.or the number of games which have support for dlss. it's a lot worse than 6700xt even, at the price 6700xt is selling which is at least 100eur less, more like 110, for a couple percent more performance 1440p rockstar, give me a break lol
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cucaulay malkin:

yet their site sayss 65%, almost double the number
Pretty sure, the CEO of the company, during the official presentation of RDNA2, has a better grasping of the numbers, than the guy who made the site.
cucaulay malkin:

whatever the case, they're both unreal numbers except for one off scenarios like 6800 vs 5700xt at 4K which is over 40% like I said, sku to sku, 6700xt achieved 30% over 5700xt and 6500xt was worse than 5600xt they like to have fun with numbers if this is indeed the same 50% they're claming with rdna3, it shouldn't be hard to extrapolate the performance based on 50% of rdna2 vs rdna1, the only unknown is the power limit. if they stay at 300w, they'll ofer 1.5x of 6900xt, and I bet they'll want more
All companies do that. Don't be mad if AMD also does it. You do realize that percentages can be presented in two ways. And AMD is not even the worst. Remember when nVidia promised Ampere would be 1.9 times better performance per watt? https://imgs.search.brave.com/qTXBm-aS97StiwhWmvNsEjeBZbi5CykAcHJVFEWfQW0/rs:fit:680:412:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9ncmFw/aGljc2NhcmRodWIu/Y29tL3dwLWNvbnRl/bnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8y/MDIwLzA5L2FtcGVy/ZS1wZXJmLXBlci13/YXR0LWltcHJvdmVt/ZW50LmpwZw
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cucaulay malkin:

correct, they were higher initially but went down they're about 10eur lower than 3070 atm I'm in EU And that's how you really sound to us. your posts just read like adverts that's just true
i'm not an advert but you are often the other name for a donkey in your treatment of others. Do Not Characterize others as it's insulting. learn manners also not everyone is YOU. there are many folks that will take +50% memory (12Gb vs 8Gb) at any given resolution. right now a "gimped" LHR 3070 costs more to buy and to operate. end of story. there is no "good" or "bad" about it. i have recommended 3070's for several people but the 6750 is the first AMD gpu below the RX6800 i've ever recommended, particularly with an AMD cpu. "what you sound like" is an apologist for all things Intel/Nvidia. and FYI, i'm a stockholder in all of the above (AMD,Nvidia, Intel).
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Was looking at the 7700(~6900xt), but it looks like it will be cut to PCIE @ 8X - not good with PCIE 3, I'm guessing. Plenty of still very capable systems with PCIE 3 motherboards. What a shame... Any word about the new nVidia cards regarding this issue?
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tunejunky:

i'm not an advert but you are often the other name for a donkey in your treatment of others. Do Not Characterize others as it's insulting. learn manners also not everyone is YOU. there are many folks that will take +50% memory (12Gb vs 8Gb) at any given resolution. right now a "gimped" LHR 3070 costs more to buy and to operate. end of story. there is no "good" or "bad" about it. i have recommended 3070's for several people but the 6750 is the first AMD gpu below the RX6800 i've ever recommended, particularly with an AMD cpu. "what you sound like" is an apologist for all things Intel/Nvidia. and FYI, i'm a stockholder in all of the above (AMD,Nvidia, Intel).
lol if 6750xt is worth 110eur over 6700xt you're just funny pushing the new refresh that's just terrible value against the old 6700xt yet you get nervous when I tell it like it is, you're doing advertising for the red team not ever taking the customer's side. it looks like you want to sell us the product to make more proft for those shares, and think amd gpus need your incentive on this forum. the way you react always proves my point.
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If they can keep the TDP at/under 300 W, I'll be happy, given I'm in the market for a card to replace my aging Radeon Fury. I've got this beasty undervolted (power slider to -50%) and I get 90% of it's stock performance at that. Quite reasonably for a 7-year-old card with a 350W stock TDP...
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Advanced chiplet packaging got my attention. RX7950XT chiplet design confirmed?
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Undying:

Advanced chiplet packaging got my attention. RX7950XT chiplet design confirmed?
Looks like it. AMD is bring it's Lego set to Radeon. 😀
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cucaulay malkin:

lol if 6750xt is worth 110eur over 6700xt you're just funny pushing the new refresh that's just terrible value against the old 6700xt yet you get nervous when I tell it like it is, you're doing advertising for the red team not ever taking the customer's side. it looks like you want to sell us the product to make more proft for those shares, and think amd gpus need your incentive on this forum. the way you react always proves my point.
go back to school and take classes in Rhetoric and Logic. you are argumentative without reason or merit. you employ endless fallacies, mostly the Strawman Argument and Ad Hominem attacks. "whatabout-ism" is another favorite of yours. FACT: i own 3x as much stock in Nvidia and 5x more stock in Intel as i do with AMD. it took Lisa Su for me to believe in AMD product whereas i was fully invested in both Nvidia and Intel at that point. FACT: nothing anybody says in a forum is ever going to move the needle for marketing. FACT: i can be critical and still invest in a company if the core principles are solid. conjecture: i seriously doubt you can.
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tunejunky:

i'm not an advert but you are often the other name for a donkey in your treatment of others. Do Not Characterize others as it's insulting. learn manners also not everyone is YOU. there are many folks that will take +50% memory (12Gb vs 8Gb) at any given resolution. right now a "gimped" LHR 3070 costs more to buy and to operate. end of story. there is no "good" or "bad" about it. i have recommended 3070's for several people but the 6750 is the first AMD gpu below the RX6800 i've ever recommended, particularly with an AMD cpu. "what you sound like" is an apologist for all things Intel/Nvidia. and FYI, i'm a stockholder in all of the above (AMD,Nvidia, Intel).
I would certainly go for 12gb instead of 8gb. Its becoming a real bottleneck even at 1440p. The 480Eur 6700xt is the best deal you can get right now.
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Undying:

I would certainly go for 12gb instead of 8gb. Its becoming a real bottleneck even at 1440p. The 480Eur 6700xt is the best deal you can get right now.
long gone zippo here
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RT is indeed the future so AMD needs to start kicking ass with it
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I know this is going to be annoying for some however, there is a caveat with AMDs performance - for RDNA2 on the AMD website it states "Up to 65% more perf/watt over RDNA" - A really annoying phrase at the beginning of that statement "Up to", this is AMD stating the best case scenario here, not the average performance uplift (pretty sure anyone who subscribes to a broadband provider has always been sceptical of the "Up to" phrase). As for the RDNA3 announcement, note the curious >50% - greater than 50% improvement, well, this once again will no doubt be in the best case scenario and will later have the "Up to" prefix. There's no reason to get hung up about these statements.
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Truder:

I know this is going to be annoying for some however, there is a caveat with AMDs performance - for RDNA2 on the AMD website it states "Up to 65% more perf/watt over RDNA" - A really annoying phrase at the beginning of that statement "Up to", this is AMD stating the best case scenario here, not the average performance uplift (pretty sure anyone who subscribes to a broadband provider has always been sceptical of the "Up to" phrase). As for the RDNA3 announcement, note the curious >50% - greater than 50% improvement, well, this once again will no doubt be in the best case scenario and will later have the "Up to" prefix. There's no reason to get hung up about these statements.
This is nothing new, Nvidia claimed incredible performance increases with 3000 but they never arrived. But at least GPU:s become quite a bit faster compared to CPU:s which evolve much slower
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tunejunky:

go back to school and take classes in Rhetoric and Logic. you are argumentative without reason or merit. you employ endless fallacies, mostly the Strawman Argument and Ad Hominem attacks. "whatabout-ism" is another favorite of yours. FACT: i own 3x as much stock in Nvidia and 5x more stock in Intel as i do with AMD. it took Lisa Su for me to believe in AMD product whereas i was fully invested in both Nvidia and Intel at that point. FACT: nothing anybody says in a forum is ever going to move the needle for marketing. FACT: i can be critical and still invest in a company if the core principles are solid. conjecture: i seriously doubt you can.
okay but can we get back to the part why 6750xt is the greatest value if 6700xt sells for 100-110eur less I do not really come here to discuss your stocks and what lisa su means for you
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Kaleid:

This is nothing new, Nvidia claimed incredible performance increases with 3000 but they never arrived. But at least GPU:s become quite a bit faster compared to CPU:s which evolve much slower
Precisely, I'm not sure why there are some here that seem to think the performance will be faster by 50% or over completely and are doggedly pursuing benchmark results to show it isn't on average when the average performance isn't what's being displayed anyway...
cucaulay malkin:

okay but can we get back to the part why 6750xt is the greatest value if 6700xt sells for 100-110eur less I do not really come here to discuss your stocks and what lisa su means for you
You might want to relax a little, he's in a different country, a different continent entirely - prices there are significantly different than they are in Europe, open your mind a little please. It's clear, the value for such cards is awful in your region, doesn't mean it's the same elsewhere.
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Truder:

Precisely, I'm not sure why there are some here that seem to think the performance will be faster by 50% or over completely and are doggedly pursuing benchmark results to show it isn't on average when the average performance isn't what's being displayed anyway... You might want to relax a little, he's in a different country, a different continent entirely - prices there are significantly different than they are in Europe, open your mind a little please. It's clear, the value for such cards is awful in your region, doesn't mean it's the same elsewhere.
well it's 75usd in NA based on pcpartpicker, I am open minded, but I'm for getting facts straight in the first place too. even with 75 not 100 this card is a poor choice against the regular 6700xt I can see 3070s are a lot more expensive there, but it still doesn't explain the positioning of the refresh against the regular card. It's like he doesn't want to acknowledge that at all, proves my point. and afaik this should work both ways, why can't he accept EU prices too. as far as I can see, 6750xt is a bad deal in na, and in eu it's just terrible.
Undying:

Its becoming a real bottleneck even at 1440p.
I haven't noticed anything have you ?
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cucaulay malkin:

well it's 75usd in NA based on pcpartpicker, I am open minded, but I'm for getting facts straight in the first place too. even with 75 not 100 this card is a poor choice against the regular 6700xt I can see 3070s are a lot more expensive there, but it still doesn't explain the positioning of the refresh against the regular card. It's like he doesn't want to acknowledge that at all, proves my point. and afaik this should work both ways, why can't he accept EU prices too. as far as I can see, 6750xt is a bad deal in na, and in eu it's just terrible.
Depends on what SKU you want, the Powercolor red devil variants of 67x0 XT have a price difference of only $40 - PC Partpicker doesn't list prices for brick and mortar stores such as for Microcenter As for the counter argument, you really should be stating that in the first place - that's a miscommunication on both of you really, failure to acknowledge either side.
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Truder:

Depends on what SKU you want, the Powercolor red devil variants of 67x0 XT have a price difference of only $40 - PC Partpicker doesn't list prices for brick and mortar stores such as for Microcenter
because they don't sell online, is that correct ? also,cherry picking is stupid. the best choice is xfx and in that case it's 145eur for speedster quick so, on average and cheapest vs cheapest, it's not 40 dollars. it's twice as much and 100 in eur