^ I think the supply may run out before it drops much lower.

Undying:

Depending on the game sam can yield quite a bump in performance on amd cards, up to 15% in some games + 5% going down to pcie3 thats 20%. I would say thats worth investing into 500 series board if going with 5000 series cpu. Storage isnt necessary but it could be with direct storage so why not going pcie4 nvme when you are at it?

5% is a very high estimate from going down to PCIe 3. It's really more like 1%, and even then, that's on the upper end with uncapped frame rates on something like a 7900. I have no interest in that. Of course, if you're talking about something like the 6400 then you're going to get a massive performance loss going to gen 3. I'm curious to see how much of a benefit DS makes in real-world tests. I also game on Linux, where DS isn't going to be an option for while. I'm sure there's going to be an open-source equivalent released within the next couple years. In any case, if I'm going to get a new mobo+RAM, I'm going to go AM5. Since I'm committing to a new GPU first, by the time I'd bother with a CPU upgrade, something like a 7700X ought to be pretty cheap. I have my doubts that a 8700X is going to be a substantial improvement.

Embra:

^ I think the supply may run out before it drops much lower.

Definitely this. It would not make sense for AMD to continue to produce these chips, considering (with today's prices) they're overall a better value to enthusiasts. I figure the reason prices have dropped to what they are is specifically because they'll still make a hefty profit while purging their remaining stock.

schmidtbag:

5% is a very high estimate from going down to PCIe 3. It's really more like 1%, and even then, that's on the upper end with uncapped frame rates on something like a 7900. I have no interest in that. Of course, if you're talking about something like the 6400 then you're going to get a massive performance loss going to gen 3. I'm curious to see how much of a benefit DS makes in real-world tests. I also game on Linux, where DS isn't going to be an option for while. I'm sure there's going to be an open-source equivalent released within the next couple years. In any case, if I'm going to get a new mobo+RAM, I'm going to go AM5. Since I'm committing to a new GPU first, by the time I'd bother with a CPU upgrade, something like a 7700X ought to be pretty cheap. I have my doubts that a 8700X is going to be a substantial improvement.

Well i did exact that upgraded to am5 but only becouse my am4 board died. I went with a 7600x becouse gaming performance between all these zen4 cpus is the same with ofc x3d variants aside obviously. I think zen5 and 8600/8700x will have substantially impoved imc and will run much higher ddr5 frequencies and we know ryzen performance is very much dependant on the ram on it so i want to upgrade to one of those next year.