AMD Ryzen 7000 Voltage Issues Persist for GIGABYTE and ASUS Motherboards Despite BIOS Updates

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H83:

Strange, shouldn't the MB set maximum voltage values that shouldn't be crossed at any circumstance? I'm thinking about an AM5 build but this news are making me reconsider...
vendors that support overclocking, have always been fast and loose with voltages, reminds me of the ddr2 days when , you could get sticks with a rated voltage of like 2.4v, which is almost suicide voltage without active cooling. same with the north bridges, some boards would run like 1.6v to achieve higher fsb speeds( note that this isn't that high on 90nm, but its a full +0.4v over spec.) many vendors bank on silicon being much more resilient than its official rating, 99% of the time its fine because real world chip lifespan is >20years for most chips, but sometimes they get it wrong.
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vendors that support overclocking, have always been fast and loose with voltages, reminds me of the ddr2 days when , you could get sticks with a rated voltage of like 2.4v, which is almost suicide voltage without active cooling. same with the north bridges, some boards would run like 1.6v to achieve higher fsb speeds( note that this isn't that high on 90nm, but its a full +0.4v over spec.) many vendors bank on silicon being much more resilient than its official rating, 99% of the time its fine because real world chip lifespan is >20years for most chips, but sometimes they get it wrong.
Yeah I still remember those days 😀
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barbacot:

EXPO is an AMD technology developed with various DDR 5 manufacturers as partners. Normally the motherboard reads values from EXPO and applies them - but is AMD and memory here - the motherboard just execute those values. It's a messy thing....I avoided AM5 for those reasons and went with AM4 for a new PC - I hate Intel big/small architecture. From AMD: - and fry the chip/motherboard in the process... Asus, Gigabyte also make boards for Intel cpu's like 13900K that can draw 350W - why there is no incident with XMP/Asus MCE, Gigabyte MCE on Intel? And by the way AMD footnotes:
So yes is overclocking is in the name, and still voids warranty. Is just that they tried for years to make the user feel de-responsibilized on doing that in order to have more marketing buzzwords. So said that i think what should happen is that they fixes it, they explain is dungerous anyway, and say to user do it again at your risk again.
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Meanwhile, Intel users...
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alanm:

Meanwhile, Intel users...
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Yeah, had z77,z97,z490. Updated bios twice in 10+ years, once for 5775c support and once for rebar support. Seeing all those critical agesa updates makes me think ill never go AMD until they're free of constant bios updates. Not to mention I never even installed Intel chipset drivers, except for irst once when i tried software raid0