AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 8000G APU Series likely Q1 2023 release

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Will they have enough volume for a world release or again limited to a single shop?
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The 5700X3D is gonna be in a weird spot as it's clocked so low that it's going to be kinda useless in games compared to the higher clocked 5700x and anyone needing those 2 extra cores should probably just get a regular 5700x as well.
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Kool64:

The 5700X3D is gonna be in a weird spot as it's clocked so low that it's going to be kinda useless in games compared to the higher clocked 5700x and anyone needing those 2 extra cores should probably just get a regular 5700x as well.
V-cache cpus are not that much dependent on the clock speed.
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Shouldn't the headline be "...likely Q1 2024 release"?
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Weird.
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the 5600x3d seems like a very good option if you can't afford the 5800x3d.
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I think it's cool they're still supporting AM4 like this. They've got some extra silicon they want to get rid of, why not!
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Robbo9999:

I think it's cool they're still supporting AM4 like this. They've got some extra silicon they want to get rid of, why not!
Agreed, but they're doing it without cannibalizing the 7000 series. I would have loved a 5950X3D, would have bought it in a heartbeat. I really don't want to mess too much with my current system because of the hard tubing custom loop.
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LimitbreakOr:

Agreed, but they're doing it without cannibalizing the 7000 series. I would have loved a 5950X3D, would have bought it in a heartbeat. I really don't want to mess too much with my current system because of the hard tubing custom loop.
Man i salute your patience!
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Undying:

V-cache cpus are not that much dependent on the clock speed.
no but price wise it's probably not going to be a large savings and it certainly won't be the best at gaming so it's in a weird spot.
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Kool64:

no but price wise it's probably not going to be a large savings and it certainly won't be the best at gaming so it's in a weird spot.
Looks like the frequency of the faster V-cache CPUs on which they're based is only 10% more frequency, so the higher frequency V-cache CPUs are only gonna be a max of 10% faster (likely a bit less).
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Venix:

Man i salute your patience!
Patience for now, i may just break on the next motherboard chipset series/zen cpu.
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This is great news for people on am4 as it does extend the live of their system. 3D cache works very well. Great to see upcoming affordable cpu's for gaming. I have a 5800x 3D on my secondary system and it is a great cpu even tested with a rtx 4090 and i could not feel any difference versus my 14900kf while gaming ( did some gaming tests ).
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Both are very very good news. To have a platform that lives as long as AM4 is just a very good example for the industry. And I have the feeling that 8xxx APUs are going to take the advantage of DDR5 and get nearer than ever to a discrete GPU.
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Silva:

Will they have enough volume for a world release or again limited to a single shop?
seems like a better chance than the 5600x3d, Now that Milan-x has been superseded by genoa-X, there is likely an opportunity for extra silicon , and amd has a gap in its lower end offerings where the 13500/13400/12600 sit, and the 5700/5600 series chips don't compete that well peformance wise ( still a good price, just not #winning ) . here in canada you can get a 5700x for $215-230 cad, where as the 5800x is like $310-320 , a 13400f/12600k is around 260-270, presumably this is where the 5700x3d will sit, it will be slower in productivity than the 5800x, but will probably yield similar or greater performance in gaming. 5800x3d by comparision sits at around $430 cad.
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If this lowers 5800X3D BOM by redirecting whatever doesn't make the cut I'm a very happy dude! Hoping to jump there from a LC 3800X a year from now with a new GPU on my system for proper VR gaming ☺️
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LimitbreakOr:

Patience for now, i may just break on the next motherboard chipset series/zen cpu.
I meant you doing hard tubing and dealing with it ! πŸ˜› although I am sure it looks SICK !
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Would like a clearer upgrade path from my 3950x to a 5950x3D or at-least a 5900x3D. Not thrilled about making a tradeoff between a 5800x3D vs 5950x. Would likely go with the 16-core because of when I used (frequent) zip operations to backup stuff, and my testing of AI on Beamng Drive. That uses LOTS of cores for both things. Sure the extra performance of the x3D is nice, but over a 5950x it's not very notable with what I do, and why wait for those longer ops longer than I have to (like zip or running AI tests where the 5800x3D would barely do half of what a 5950x would do)? What rarely reviews quantify/clarify is if the x3D makes it better at draw calls - which I'd think not, and how many vehicles I can run simultaneously in Beamng Drive with AI use on a large map like Italy / West Coast or even my map Los Injurus.
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Venix:

I meant you doing hard tubing and dealing with it ! πŸ˜› although I am sure it looks SICK !
oh yeah, to be honest it isn't worth it. It does take a ton of patience and then it locks you up on upgrades as its just too big a pain to redo it, while soft tubing is a no brainer. But it does look really nice, maybe i can share some photo, is there an appropiate place in the forum for that?