AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K
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Ivrogne
oh boy. dis gon be guud.
cryohellinc
Looking forward to this.
sverek
I should prepare my wishlist for review.
Undying
Not bad. 9900k still holds 500$ price mark.
LEEc337
Will there be any extra performance with a x570 chipset I wonder? HAPPY FRIDAY
Fox2232
Considering that x570 chipset requires more power, I presume that operating I/O chip inside CPU in PCIe 4.0 mode will result in higher power draw, more heat and less remaining current for CPU cores.
I just wonder by how much.
Kaleid
I would pretty much only expect more with higher memory speeds. Ryzen CPUs seem to love fast RAM. Most will not need PCI-E 4.0 for a long time.
oxidized
Why is everyone saying this is good? Wasn't the 3800X supposed to smoke 9900K? Remember that at this point the 9900K can be found for less than 500€ (472€ shipping included in my country) and that a decent motherboard is going to probably cost less for the 9900K compared to the 3800K, or at the very least the same, if the 3800X is going to cost only 50-100€ less i'm not sure it's such big of a deal.
Fox2232
So, it is no big deal to pay $50~100 for each important component of equivalent performance?
oxidized
Equivalent? It doesn't seem to me they're actually equivalent, they're similar, but not equivalent besides 50-100€ less for the CPU but an equivalent motherboard will probably cost more for the AMD configuration this time, so... that 50-100€ of save might actually be more 50 than 100€, still for a lower performing part, which probably consumes less i give you that, but the 9900K is overall still faster.
H1TMANza
I want to see how the 3600x compares to my 1st gen 1600 chip in 1440p gaming with a 1080ti before I decide on a purchase.
Fox2232
I already feel that extra MB cost... Really... I looked at my MB yesterday... Knowing that it is to stay in that PC as I install 3900X 😀
Nobody who does not need X570 is forced to buy it. People can just use X470 if they have use for it. Or B450 which are rather cheap.
Too many choices and you speak as if people were forced into X570.
oxidized
Not forced, but if you buy a high end CPU you might want a high mobo too, and x470 is high end, but of the previous generation, i guess x570 brings something more to the table than just pcie 4 doesn't it?
Fox2232
Not really. Most of people do not need anything extra. And of someone needs them, then that someone does not have trouble paying for them.
(And it would not be felt as loss of investment.)
Undying
Leaks showing 3600x beating the 8700k. If true thats a nice upgrade.
Aura89
Oh you're one of those people who are so stuck on intel you think the 3800x requires a x570 board. I'm so sorry for your mindset.
All that shows is how intel hasn't advanced their IPC in quite some time. As well as stated in the article the bench was done with low frequency memory. Also stated in the article that even an intel 9900k with better memory gets a better single-threaded score, and it's already known (unless something changed in Zen2) that AMD loves faster memory.
It's pretty sad though, you can't even find a quad-core 8 threaded processor that is new from Intel anymore, so i guess your older processor is better then current quad-core processors for intel....talk about backwards process'.
Also, your multi-score is pretty horrible, but being the fact it's 5 years old, it makes sense.
Not everything is about single-threaded scores, bud.
oxidized
Why buy a 3800X then? I mean you can get a x470 no problems, but what's the point, if i buy a new system for example, i'd like to have the best and newest hardware at that point.
Never said that, i said that since i'm building a new PC i'd rather buy something newer, possibly with more features and upgrade old ones, than buy older hardware.
Zhyr
You're comparing an overclocked CPU to ones running stock speeds. That's not exactly a valid comparison unless you're looking at performance increases over stock.
Kaarme
In reality even if you put in as much money as you want, you even can't buy an equivalent mobo for the Intel CPU because it simply can't support PCIe 4.0. So, the equivalent on AMD's side would be one generation older mobo with PCIe 3.0. I don't think they are any more expensive than on the blue side?
Intel might end up being still overall faster due to software having so much legacy Intel optimisation. Nothing AMD can do about it. It's just something that needs to fix itself over time, assuming AMD can stay in the competition this time. And Intel doesn't resort to its usual ugly under the table methods.
Fox2232
3700X is of better value. But people buy depending on their budget. That's why notion of paying extra $50~100 makes little sense for comparable products.
If one can save that on one component, it can be investment towards something that yields higher value per $. (Like GPU, M.2, or memory in case of productivity system.)
