AMD Ryzen 7 3800X review
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Unstizzy
Hell ya, let's fucking get it AMD. Great review as always my dude.
DLD
Whatever happened to the promise made by AMD that Ryzen family will keep supporting 64bit window$ 7 (unlike their "competition", the not-so-intelligent one)? Lately I hear many people complaining of not being able to install w7 on ryzen-based machines.
buhehe
Can't really agree with the recommendation, if taking Value into account.
It feels like a pointless product to me when the almost identical 3700X is around for way less, as highlighted in the conclusion.
Unstizzy
Even with all my complaints about W10, W7 is no where superior and W10 copies are practically being given away at today's prices.
Undying
I like the 3800x, It probably worth some extra compared to 3700x so you can get highest clocks possible. 8 cores is enough.
Btw, HH in the first page (intruduction) there is a statement 3800x is 8c/12t. 🙂
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
It's a visual indicator telling me it's almost weekend and I need a rest 😉
Unstizzy
You heard it here first, FREE 3800X coming to us all due to the typo!
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Oh, I'd be bankrupt to the level of a homeless dude if I need to compensate all my typos! 🙂
IceVip
"muh 5ghz zen2 oc, intel ded" boy where r these nosebleeds now.
Angushades
Windows 7 in 2019 lol, you'd have to be joking right. OMG the public education system has failed so hard...
airbud7
Great review Hilbert!
I thought Microsoft controlled that?
"Microsoft states it no longer supports newer CPUs with Windows 7 because the OS is in the Extended Support stage since 2015."
DLD
"Superiority" is not an issue here - we're talking about being able to install w7 for different reasons:
1. having programs that do not run well under w10 or cannot even be installed there (due to the w10's infamous feature to "reject" the "obsolete" apps and programs)
2. having some older hardware
3. wanting to have more control over the system(s) (either on a single-boot or a multi-boot machine)
But you might be too young or too inexperienced to fully understand this, so I don't blame you for your simple-mindedness ("not everything that flies is meant to be eaten" - a Serbian proverb in a loose translation).
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@airbud7@
Why should be microbe-soft even asked to do anything about it? Aren't AMD and not-very-intelligent-any-more in charge of writing their "inf" file packages to support THEIR hardware under an already well known op system?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
DLD, drop the insults okay?
DLD
OK. Silence is golden (but my eyes still see)...
schmidtbag
What promise? I thought AMD made it clear they had no intention on supporting Windows 7 since the first Ryzen release?
Anyway - it's dual-effort. AMD may have to provide the correct drivers but it is up to MS to implement them. Considering MS still hasn't done anything about their scheduler issues with Ryzen for W10, I don't see why they'd care to do anything for W7.
vbetts
Moderator
1. Windows 10 has compatibility mode and sandbox mode, on top of that VM is a thing. Screenfilter will stop apps from running, but literally that's an extra click.
2. Windows 10 requirements are fairly low, 1 ghz cpu, 1gb ram, dx9 enabled gpu, that's pretty low.
3. You still have access to registry, MSconfig, system32 folder, and so on. If you have the pro version you still have group policy and RDT access.
airbud7
Dude I was just as hard headed as you about windows 10..."I loved 7" So about 3 months ago I said WTH let's do it.....took about 1hour and bam! ....windows 10 is better/faster and still free!
PS: Did I mention I was hard headed....Grrrrr!....:p
asturur
I do not know... my old i7 990x with ddr3 on a x58 with a sata 2 SSD on windows 7 feels snappier than my windows 10 at default on an athlon 2700x with ddr4 and samsung 970 evo.
I have no idea why.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
No that is a way too simplified assumption as graphics quality evolves year by year demanding more powerful GPUs. The framerate targets stay at 60~144 FPS, so for the bigger part that range is all that matters for a processor.
Game developers choose a target FPS say 60 or 144 FPS, and adapt image quality settings based on the mainstream hardware available. With faster graphics cards comes better graphics. Compare the first and last Tomb Raider and notice what happens.
Do you still game at a graphics quality level of 2006? CPU limitation, therefore, is less of a factor compared to GPU limitation, it's also the same reason that so many people still have an older CPU and play their games just fine. You're focussing on the 720p results a little too much, whereas 1440p paints a more realistic picture as ion the en, 99% of the time any PC is GPU limited in games.
Ricardo
Yes, any processor other than a OC'ed 9900k sucks for gaming. You're absolutely right. No question there. Anyone that buys anything else is just wrong. Period. Did I said you're right? Because you are.
