In Denmark (PROSHOP) 5900X is 683,47$ incl. 25% vat 10900k is 667,57$ incl. 25% vat Edit 3900X is 540,38$ incl. 25% vat 3900XT is 635,77$ incl. 25% vat

Undying:

Last time amd was dominating this hard was in 2005 with their Fx-57 and Fx-60. It was 1,200$ monster of a cpu and the last time amd was more expensive than intel (until now). Guru3d review https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_athlon_64_fx_60_processor,11.html

You're right - I forgot about the FX - they were expensive - I couldn't afford one at the time...

Looks like 8 cores is still too expensive. And it seems AMD releases the X versions so that they can make a bit more money on the early buyers

Not worth it whatsoever. The 8 core is basically the same price the 9900K was here where I live, and even without having to buy a new mobo for it I deemed that to be way overpriced. I got my 8700K just a month or so after the official launch at 345-ish EU. If these corporations cannot offer me more cores with better performance at the same price, there's no reason i should feed them my money.

barbacot:

You're right - I forgot about the FX - they were expensive - I couldn't afford one at the time...

And what a horrible buy those were: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/review_core_2_duo_e6600_e6700_x6800,11.html This is a good history lesson for people that jump on overpriced trash. E6600, similar performance, 1/3 of the price, 2006 release

toyo:

Not worth it whatsoever. The 8 core is basically the same price the 9900K was here where I live, and even without having to buy a new mobo for it I deemed that to be way overpriced. I got my 8700K just a month or so after the official launch at 345-ish EU. If these corporations cannot offer me more cores with better performance at the same price, there's no reason i should feed them my money. And what a horrible buy those were: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/review_core_2_duo_e6600_e6700_x6800,11.html This is a good history lesson for people that jump on overpriced trash. E6600, similar performance, 1/3 of the price, 2006 release

Well, C2D changed everything and pretty much came out of nowhere.

All we need is patience. Later better prices will be applied, black friday and holiday season is ahead of us...so no need to worry.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

It's Central point, the day that other etailers start listing prices will drop as they've always have. This news item is more about the exorbitant prices etailers will try to charge in the initial launch wave and pre-order.

Hopefully they aren't inflated again by the time my 400-series mainboard gets it's Zen-3 BIOS-update in January...

toyo:

Not worth it whatsoever. The 8 core is basically the same price the 9900K was here where I live, and even without having to buy a new mobo for it I deemed that to be way overpriced. I got my 8700K just a month or so after the official launch at 345-ish EU. If these corporations cannot offer me more cores with better performance at the same price, there's no reason i should feed them my money. And what a horrible buy those were: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/review_core_2_duo_e6600_e6700_x6800,11.html This is a good history lesson for people that jump on overpriced trash. E6600, similar performance, 1/3 of the price, 2006 release

Seeing as the 5900XT is 48$ more expensive than the 3900XT but 26% faster, it's totally worth it. Especially for someone like me who do other things besides playing games. I get the best of both worlds. The 3900X is actually an even better deal, but since I already have one I will settle for a 5900X. Depending on the tardiness of Asus I will possibly get a new MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk board as well.

Webhiker:

Seeing as the 5900XT is 48$ more expensive than the 3900XT but 26% faster, it's totally worth it. Especially for someone like me who do other things besides playing games. I get the best of both worlds. The 3900X is actually an even better deal, but since I already have one I will settle for a 5900X. Depending on the tardiness of Asus I will possibly get a new MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk board as well.

If you actually need it, sure. What most of you guys seem to ignore or miss is that we've had decade(s?) of getting vastly superior products often at lower price. GTX970 vs the 780ti. 1070 vs 980ti. Core 2 Duo vs the P4 and FX. HD 4850 vs the 8800 GTX. Corporations are not your friend and should be put back on that path. It's far more important we get good prices than corporations making always increasing profits. Customers should care for customers, not megacorps.

MaCk0y:

That's what I used to think but it's all about the VAT. Take the 5950X as example and compare it to the Finnish price. It's $800 ~ €677 + a whopping 24% VAT Rate (GG Finland) = €839. Now AFAIK, the USD prices don't include sales tax as not all states have one and they're different from state to state. In my country, the VAT rate is 18% but I will never buy electronics from here because shops add a minimum of €100 to the price. So computeruniverse is the saviour since you can buy at the VAT rate of your shipping location even though the etailer is located in Germany (GG computeruniverse).

This is correct. Many european countries include VAT in their pricing, i believe by law. Whereas the US does not include sales tax in any of their pricing on any website ever, partially due to the fact that every state is different (some don't have sales tax but have income tax and pay their taxes on what they buy even if they don't spend money on a taxable item) and there's zero laws requiring that information on the products themselves, you get that information on checkout. Heck, they aren't even different from state to state, but city to city. I live in Alaska, where there are no sales tax, however the city i live in does have sales tax, so i have to pay taxes on anything i buy. I use to live in Montana, also a place without sales tax, but i went to a city there as well that also charged sales tax on everything. Lived in washington state as well, where there is a state-wide sales tax, but every city you went to, you were paying the state sales tax + city sales tax and therefore a different amount of taxes based off of what city you lived in/were shopping in. Really, really matters where specifically you live in the US to determine how much taxes you are ultimately paying on a product.

Actually, the Portugese prices are nearly in sync with the US MSRP prices and the included VAT. If I'm right, VAT is 23% in Portugal. 5600X: 300 $ + 23% VAT= 369 $ ~ 313 EUR 5800X 400 $ + 23% VAT = 492 $ ~417 EUR 5900X: 550 $ + 23% VAT = 676,5 $ ~ 573 EUR 5950X: 800 $ + 23% VAT = 984 $ ~ 834 EUR Only the 5800X is significantly more (470 instead of 417), but the 5600X is exactly the same, and the 5900X and 5950X are even 3-4 EURs cheaper. But those Dutch prices... what the heck? They can't be real, more like placeholders.

toyo:

If you actually need it, sure.

Well, why someone would buy a CPU if he/she doesn't need it? 🙂

Way above msrp in Poland. What a joke

BReal85:

Well, why someone would buy a CPU if he/she doesn't need it? 🙂

Maybe because they can throw money at it and dont care about it lol EDIT: Anyway... the price gap from 5800 to 5900 is not that big, for a 100€ more i am seriously thinking about going with the 5900 and i dont need 12 cores.

TLD LARS:

Was hoping the 5000 series would push the 3000 series prices down, but this does not look like that would be the case. Hopefully these prices are just temporary higher then normal to grab all the "first" buyers during the high demand, low stock launch period.

AMD almost always has discounts eventually. Sometimes within a matter of months of release. I'm sure AMD knows demand is high and they just intend to maximize profit off their hardcore fans first, then tone things down a notch for everyone else. I'm not going to expect prices better than the 3000 series any time soon, not unless Intel comes up with a compelling response. Part of the reason AMD is charging this much is most likely because they have the top product.

Aura89:

Whereas the US does not include sales tax in any of their pricing on any website ever, partially due to the fact that every state is different (some don't have sales tax but have income tax and pay their taxes on what they buy even if they don't spend money on a taxable item) and there's zero laws requiring that information on the products themselves, you get that information on checkout.

Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire. No sales tax or income tax (except on dividends). NH actually lacks a lot of taxes, and makes up for it in property tax and tolls. Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't. For example I used to live in Massachusetts, and they had a separate tax for owning a car, buying alcohol, and buying tobacco products. Surprisingly, they consider soda and candy to be groceries, which isn't taxed. I know there are some places that do tax those. All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.

schmidtbag:

Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire.

Alaska has no sales or income tax either, however, some cities do. Didn't know there were any states that disallowed cities to have their own sales tax, which looking it up is what new hampshire did. If i lived in anchorage alaska for instance though i'd have no sales or income taxes, from the state/city anyways lol

schmidtbag:

Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't.

Yeah there's a lot of stuff that can be said about this. Different tax rates on different items, some items don't get taxed, all variable depending on what state and possibly even city you live in. It's one of the things i have discussed with a few people about income tax vs sales tax. Living in washington with a 9-10% sales tax vs Montana with around (depending on how much you make_ 4-5% income tax, people often say "see, that's less!" but people don't take into consideration it's often no tax on food, depending on the food, or things like rent, whereas, income tax is affectively on all everything you spend money on, including rent, etc. Did the calculations once, i definitely paid far more taxes in montana then i did in washington, so if i ever moved to another state, i'd honestly hope it's a sales tax compared to income anyways lol

schmidtbag:

All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.

It may sound like penny pinching but it also does another thing: Random examples so, know it's not from something specific. If something said it cost 31.50 and that included taxes, then two of that would cost $63 with taxes, no matter what the % is supposed to be, due to the fact that's what the advertised easy to see price is per item with tax Whereas something that is 29.99, but is $31.50 with tax, is not necessarily going to be $63 if you buy two, it could be $63.01. Working retail in the past i have seen this multiple times. My best guess is either the POS system calculated something like 31.505 as the price for one, and therefore two would be $63.01, or it simply calculates taxes completely at the end. Similar to the whole 9/10th pricing on gas in places https://cdn.hswstatic.com/gif/gas-price-fraction.jpg Technically...it is more accurate this way, but yeah lol

Whoaaa, hopefully just starter prices. Can't wait to see what the 5600 will be priced at when they drop on the 5th in the UK. Need one for my B550M board. This 3400G I'm running now was only meant as a placeholder.

Yup, not surprised, when building my intel couple months back after few years away first thing i noticed is how mobo prices have risen, can't complain too much about CPUs as you get a whole lot more these days for your money. Hopefully good gaming results in Guru3d Review, can't wait!

BReal85:

But those Dutch prices... what the heck? They can't be real, more like placeholders.

The Dutch shop which lists them is Central Point, which is tailored to business owners. They always have outrageous prices, especially on stuff they don't have in stock (like the RTX 3080). Prices in their webshop are listed excluding VAT (called BTW here), but even then are more expensive than it should cost WITH VAT. How a shop like that keeps existing, I have no clue...

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

It's Central point, the day that other etailers start listing prices will drop as they've always have. This news item is more about the exorbitant prices etailers will try to charge in the initial launch wave and pre-order.

Seems everyone forgets the AMD will sell them at MSRP through their own store not only at the States but delivering to most of the EU also. (through their store in Netherlands) Bought the 3900X and 5700XT AE almost £180 less from the AMD Store on release day last year, than any store in UK, Germany and France

For reference, shop prices in Estonia (includes 20% VAT): 3900X - 435€, which is ~$514. 3900XT - 472€ ~$557 3800X - 338€ - $400