AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Beats Intel Core i5-10600K

Reddoguk

2020-10-20 08:58

And for a gaming system a 5600X might be well enough for Very High End Gaming rig. If i could keep my B450 AORUS Pro the upgrade will be pretty massive compared to my 2600X. From a CPU-Z single score of 484 for the 2600X to well over 600 for the 5600X. All i need then is a 3070TI or One of Big Navi GPUs and that's me set for a good 4 years. I honestly don't see the other CPUs on Zen 3 pushing that much more FPS than the 5600X. The 5800X will only offer a frame or two difference.

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Undying

2020-10-20 09:15

It will best even 10700k. Shit is getting serious now intel.

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Goiur

2020-10-20 09:32

6/12 might fall short in 2-3 years if consoles push the cpu usage to 8 cores. Im torn between the 5800 and the 5900... Reviews cant come soon enough.

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Fox2232

2020-10-20 09:41

Goiur:

6/12 might fall short in 2-3 years if consoles push the cpu usage to 8 cores. Im torn between the 5800 and the 5900... Reviews cant come soon enough.

Lower clock, lower IPC than Zen3.

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Undying

2020-10-20 09:47

Goiur:

6/12 might fall short in 2-3 years if consoles push the cpu usage to 8 cores. Im torn between the 5800 and the 5900... Reviews cant come soon enough.

6/12 will fall short even sooner than that. Why do you think 8/16 prices went up the most? Amd knows it will be the chip to get.

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moab600

2020-10-20 10:03

Damn if that's true then AMD really gonna dominate all segments easily and intel gonna became the "value" brand.

#5844552

Undying

2020-10-20 10:08

moab600:

Damn if that's true then AMD really gonna dominate all segments easily and intel gonna became the "value" brand.

Value means you are cheaper but when you are more expensive and slower than everything falls apart.

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kapu

2020-10-20 10:44

Goiur:

6/12 might fall short in 2-3 years if consoles push the cpu usage to 8 cores. Im torn between the 5800 and the 5900... Reviews cant come soon enough.

It will not fall short. Not a chance i can bet GOOD money on that , consoles will push GPUs trues , but forget about CPU , unless they create some new features that will punish CPU.

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Matt26LFC

2020-10-20 10:54

To be honest, the 5900X costing just 25% more than a 5800X and having 50% more cores makes the 5900X more of a no brainer to me. 8 core is a weird one considering it costs way more than the 6 core but not much less than the 12 core

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kapu

2020-10-20 11:23

tty8k:

I know I should be excited about this but I'm not that much. For the price paid, and I'm not saying here just AMD , Intel is in the same boat, we're getting a very small percentage of performance increase. 2021, most of us will be gaming at 2k or 4k resolution. The difference between a generation or two going back 2-3 years and this one (or the next intel) will be 5-15% at best. To pay 700e +/- for that combo (cpu and mb) seems like a poor investment for the performance gain. 3 years ago I was still looking for a better multi core cpu that will reduce my video encoding time. Today I use nvenc, 6 times faster than any cpu .... So now I'd rather invest apx 7-800 in a gpu that will bring me at least 50% more performance in games compared to prev gen (and better encoding support).

And you can game at 4k with quad core 🙂

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Undying

2020-10-20 11:26

kapu:

And you can game at 4k with quad core 🙂

Yeah and 2gb vram is enough at 4k too.

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mitzi76

2020-10-20 11:47

Undying:

Yeah and 2gb vram is enough at 4k too.

8-10gb looks about enough. Spent hrs last night watching benchmarks saw a few games hit 9gb which means I think 3080 plus 4k the smart move as it stands. From what I saw, I'd love some feedback from Gurus. Am considering now an Amd if can find a 6 core that saves me £100...then I dont mind getting the 3080. 12Gb looks perfect at 4k but how much are games affected when you go over the vram limit. I havent seen any evidence how its overtly detrimental to your experience but could be wrong.

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Undying

2020-10-20 12:06

mitzi76:

8-10gb looks about enough. Spent hrs last night watching benchmarks saw a few games hit 9gb which means I think 3080 plus 4k the smart move as it stands. From what I saw, I'd love some feedback from Gurus. Am considering now an Amd if can find a 6 core that saves me £100...then I dont mind getting the 3080. 12Gb looks perfect at 4k but how much are games affected when you go over the vram limit. I havent seen any evidence how its overtly detrimental to your experience but could be wrong.

10gb seems enough atm but its up there on the border of not being enough from what i've seen. 8gb is not enough and many reviewers already mention the doom eternal massive fps drops with the 2080. Even if one game shows actual vram usage exceedes 8gb i consider it not being enough especially when next gen games starts using raytracing that ups the vram usage exponentially.

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Turanis

2020-10-20 12:13

Synthetic 14% is not so much,but in gaming and the future proof AM4 design matter most of the time. Intel is in trouble because they cannot change that monolithic design on the fly and that new socket of them is not so future proof as AM4 (when you can get like Ryzen 1xxx to 5xxx on the same socket).

#5844615

0blivious

2020-10-20 12:44

AMD good . . Intel bad

#5844619

moab600

2020-10-20 13:03

Undying:

Value means you are cheaper but when you are more expensive and slower than everything falls apart.

That's why i put " on that 🙂 I just hope prices will stabilize fast as the new parts are expensive atm.

#5844620

Exodite

2020-10-20 13:04

Undying:

Why do you think 8/16 prices went up the most? Amd knows it will be the chip to get.

Matt26LFC:

8 core is a weird one considering it costs way more than the 6 core but not much less than the 12 core

My take on this is partially the opportunity cost, for AMD that is. Any fully working 8-core chiplet that's sold as part of a Ryzen 5xx0 is one that's not going into an EPYC chip, with far higher margins. And production capacity will be constrained for some time I'd imagine. Assuming, and HH will show us come review day, most games don't scale perfectly from 6 to 8 cores I'd be inclined to go for the 5900X myself. It's just that much better for productivity at a very small additional cost.

#5844624

Silva

2020-10-20 13:15

Can't wait for the 3600 price to drop so maybe I can grab one to replace my 2600.

#5844629

Dragam1337

2020-10-20 13:30

Matt26LFC:

To be honest, the 5900X costing just 25% more than a 5800X and having 50% more cores makes the 5900X more of a no brainer to me. 8 core is a weird one considering it costs way more than the 6 core but not much less than the 12 core

There is a very good reason for this - the 5800x will consist of a single 8 core ccx, where all cores are enabled. The 5900x will consist of 2 ccx where 6 of the 8 cores are enabled. This allows for "faulty chips" to still be sold. The fact that the 5800x only consists of a single ccx (unlike previous ryzen chips, that only had 4 cores per ccx) means it will have much lower latency than the 5900x, which is what matters for gaming, and the reason that intel has held the gaming crown for so long. In other words, the 5800x will be THE gaming chip to get.

#5844643

alpha007org

2020-10-20 14:11

One year ago I bought a good 570 MB and 3600 with the intent of upgrading to Zen 3. I use multiple PCs and this one is for Sim Racing. 3600 in just a little too slow when there are a lot of cars on track. I think I'll snatch 5800 next year when supply (and prices) gets sorted out. I think it was a smart decision and I was lucky because Ryzen 5000 are showing a very big improvement... If reviewers find out it's more hype then real world perf improvement I'll buy 3[9/8]00X on second hand market.