AMD RX Radeon 7900 XTX (reference) Failure rate would be 11% opposed to 1%

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Dimitrios1983:

I agree with you with Jensen but please do some homework, Elon Twitter deal was done to expose the crooked F B I and our disgusting administration. It wasn't about the money. After it was exposed many Twitter employee's came forward and so did a few F B I agents. James Woods came forward and showed evidence of being harassed by the previous Twitter ownership and false allegations which ruined his acting career and now is suing and has a good chance of winning. You should be thanking Elon since it proved how Twitter band a large amount of doctors that discussed the truth about C O V I D. Prove me wrong and I will give you $1,000.
I'd rather a lobster chew on my balls then thank Elon Musk for anything. Stop posting political shit on on technical threads - go to the pub if you want to push crazy.. we are all stocked up here, having to pay $1000 for a midlevel GPUs that catch on fire or others that have to be oriented with euler angles to get proper performance.
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This might be the end of AMD GPU department, literally nothing going on for them with the 7900XTX. Hopefully I'm wrong, as nVidia is already a monopoly.
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11% so basically constitutes all MBA cards. 😳
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leszy:

NVidia's problem is a design problem
A spec design, not Nvidia's design. They used the new ATX3.0 standard which is a 12 pin socket
leszy:

NVidia's explanation of "user error" is nonsense. Never have graphic cards (or any other PC component) required special training to be properly connected to prevent the possibility of starting a fire.
It is user error... User's did not properly insert the plug until it clicked securely in place. That's pretty much the definition of user error. Special training is not required, only common sense and making sure you do something correctly. The same issue has happened in the past with normal PCI cables when people didn't pay attention
leszy:

NVidia's problem has not been solved in any way, because computer vibrations can sooner or later lead to loosening of the link and melting of power sockets and pcb.
No they can't. If the plug is connected properly and clicked into place it cannot simply vibrate out with "computer vibrations" LOL
leszy:

Personally, I would not dare to leave the computer with the RTX 4090 with a demanding game turned on for the night
That's probably sensible... Computer vibrations might magically bring your PC to life and make it run off down the street...
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It's a shame that the air coolers are having trouble. I'm crazy and have 4 rigs with RDNA2 cards all on water blocks. They primarily do folding at home to help heat the house up. I do game with the one in my main rig though when I'm not folding. I know it's not a real solution for a company to just say screw the air cooler, but it is an option. After hearing about how much wattage the new cards draw, I'm not that surprised. Even with water cooling RDNA2 cards can get hot. RDNA3 would make the heat problem even worse I think. It would be great if we could order the new cards without any cooling similar to buying a tray processor without a heatsink. I wouldn't use it anyway. Air cooling can be nice for not having to worry about leaks though, so I get it...
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fantaskarsef:

Wait a second... Does that mean the partners that manufacture the MBA cards, or do 3rd party coolers now act up as well? o_O edit: source (and google translate) help: It's about OEM partners, actually, who should have built rigs with MBA cards. Also, source says that Cooler Master made the cooler, but the vapor chamber was done by a company named "Asia Vital Components" (AVC). Apparently, AVC's quality control failed.
Strange they say "RMA instances are 9–11% per thousand of cards". The percentage rate covers every single card, not each thousand only. As though they are trying to limit our perception of damage to a portion of 1000 cards. On the plus side I expected this to be a lot worse, perhaps it will be.
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How do you mess up a vapor chamber or is it just failing when mounted in anything but a horizontal position?
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Can we fire Scott Herkleman even if he has nothing to do with it?
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Reddoguk:

How do you mess up a vapor chamber or is it just failing when mounted in anything but a horizontal position?
the manufactuaring defect is insufficient liquid in the chamber, there is enough liquid that in the vertical orientation , gravity is sufficient to bring th liquid back to the cooling plate, but horizonally gravity works against it , and there isnt enough liquid wicked back to keep the cooler functioning.
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Denial:

Stop posting political crap on on technical threads - go to the pub if you want to push crazy.. we are all stocked up here
This^....the pub section should come with a warning label though.
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Mufflore:

The percentage rate covers every single card, not each thousand only.
no, its usually a block unit of returns.
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I don't know why are people surprised by these numbers. I don't know how many is "1 batch" for coolers, but considering amount of cards AMD is selling, that could be easily 20% of reference cards. Intel was already at 40% of AMD GPU sales and I would not be surprised if AMD ends in 3rd place by the end of the year.
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i remember when i purchased rtx2080 MSI Duke when it was released, in first week 19/20 that where sold where sent back for RMA here at my local store so imagine how that went world wide.... I don't remember reading anything about that fuss, QC is low in few past years regarding gpus.
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"While this sounds promising, Igorslab uncovered nine to eleven percent of reported RMA cases between consumers, AMD, and their partners." To me this translates that 9-11% of RMA cases are with the vapor chamber problem...In my mind this just means that 11% of the RMA cases are with this issue, the other 89% RMA calls are different issues. How does one draw the conclusion that 11% of xtx sales have this problem ?
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Dimitrios1983:

I agree with you with Jensen but please do some homework, Elon Twitter deal was done to expose the crooked F B I and our disgusting administration. It wasn't about the money. After it was exposed many Twitter employee's came forward and so did a few F B I agents. James Woods came forward and showed evidence of being harassed by the previous Twitter ownership and false allegations which ruined his acting career and now is suing and has a good chance of winning. You should be thanking Elon since it proved how Twitter band a large amount of doctors that discussed the truth about C O V I D. Prove me wrong and I will give you $1,000.
Dood... don't make political posts in TECHNOLOGY discussions! Post those in CONSPIRACY instead... Gets a big bucket of popcorn...
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number must be not up to date if 7900xt reference has 1% and this has 0.5%. seems like they're just not reporting the number, mindfactory always had a strong amd affiliation, their sales numbers were mostly amd cpus and gpus. when I search the best deals for cards in Europe, the best offers for rx6000 series were always from mindfactory.
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My 7900XTX is running great! It's a bummer some people got paper weights though 🙁. I'm hoping we will see some solid third party cooling solutions by this summer like a new NZXT Kraken bracket.