D3M1G0D:

As for DLSS, that's nothing more than a bad joke.

You clearly haven't seen DLSS in Wolfenstein.

I'd honestly like to see someone go back and retest DLSS on older games. Part of the selling point was that it would constantly be updated via drivers over time to improve quality. I'd like to see someone do tests with launch drivers for DLSS games vs now and see if any quality improvements were made. I know newer DLSS implementations are way better but the originals like BF5 should have improved over time as well - at least according to nvidia's marketing.

Denial:

I assumed Big Navi is RNDA2 and the Navi refresh will bring Navi stuff to RDNA2?

Nobody knows for certain, but I hope AMD does not do anything half assed. It is possible Big Navi will be RNDA1 with a beefed up compute architecture to do RT, and RDNA2 introducing the new architecture required for future implementations of new features (RT, VRS, Mesh Shaders, etc..) found in DX12. Edit: Some clarifications from AMD. Lisa Su reference to "refresh" means adding to the product stack, not next-gen (RDNA2) products. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-navi-to-be-refreshed-with-next-gen-rdna-architecture-in-2020

2019 = AMD WINS! And smash Intel 2020 = PC CPU Market Share - AMD = 80% / Intel = 20%

Spets:

You clearly haven't seen DLSS in Wolfenstein.

Yeah, it's actually really impressive in that game.

According to the AMD earnings conference yesterday... "To the investment community, "refresh" has a somewhat different meaning that typically refers to completely new products. In the context of Su's statement, it doesn't appear that she was referencing a "refreshed" lineup of Navi cards analogous to the tech community's typical understanding of the term. Instead, we will see new products based on the next-gen RDNA architecture come to market, ostensibly to address the high end of the GPU market (Big Navi). " ...looking indeed like RDNA2 in 2020.

I had a feeling big Navi was going to be RDNA 2, probably on 7nm +

pharma:

According to Ryan Smith at Anandtech RDNA2 will be a new architecture and I doubt "Big Navi" will include any next gen architectural elements. It seems more a stop-gap product to tide over sales till RDNA2 arrives, primarily targeting people with lots of disposable income . Ryan Smith@Anandtech

i agree "big navi" will have a newer uArch and i don't doubt that at all