These the ones with integrated PCIe 3.0 etc?

I don't think so. AMD's Opteron 6300 product page doesn't mention anything related to PCI-E.

Probably right, i think they'd need a new socket.

These the ones with integrated PCIe 3.0 etc?

nope this will be on new socket, in near future.

So, when will these see general availability?

So, when will these see general availability?

AMD Opteron 6338P and 6370P are in shop right now... But exept if you go budget server there is no advantage to go Opteron, Xeon is still better in general perf.

AMD Opteron 6338P and 6370P are in shop right now... But exept if you go budget server there is no advantage to go Opteron, Xeon is still better in general perf.

If you just wanted to have a crap load of cores though you can get 2x6378 16 core cpus and a dual g34 board for about 2 grand. and have a combined tdp of 230w or save like 300$ and go with 2x6376 and the same board only downside is 2.3ghz vs 2.4ghz but no biggie there. There are a crapload more options for the 2011 platform though for servers. The 12 core 2.7ghz e5-2697 or whatever its called is a beast. but its 2700$. 3000$ with a decent board. 2.4ghz 12 core is like 300$ cheaper though usually. opteron 6376(700$) vs Intel Xeon E5-2640 v2(920$) And they both should perform about the same. EDIT: just remembered the new piledriver opterons are even cheaper. hell 6338p is only 350-400$ and it should outperform the opteron 6376 at 700$.