told you @Undying, the 54CU card is not navi33 with 12GB, it's a cut navi 32 with 12GB. And we're not going to see it until 7900s are sold out since they probably fixed the design flaws and n32 16g (7800xt) would be too close to 7900xt.

Damn i guess we'll have to wait little more for 7700/7800xt which is strange to me. GPUs should always be released from highest to lowest. AMD is late. Navi32 should have been released already to counter 4070.

RDNA3 should not have gone to market until the flaws were ironed out and no silicon issues existed to impair peak performance.

I think AMD is going to release the 7600 versions first because the 7700/7800X aren`t going to be much better than the current 6800XT/6900XT that can be bought right now at very decent prices. And if they can undercut Nvidia by a decent margin, then there`s a good chance that the 7600 series will sell well.

Undying:

Damn i guess we'll have to wait little more for 7700/7800xt which is strange to me. GPUs should always be released from highest to lowest. AMD is late. Navi32 should have been released already to counter 4070.

Honestly when it comes to AMD, it should go like: 1st release low-end / APUs, because they're usually too slow for peak performance to matter; they just have to be faster than last-gen, which is relatively easy. 2nd release high-end, because when it comes to AMD, only their diehard fans are going to care. They'll help with AMD's margins. 3rd release mainstream, because that accounts for the bulk of AMD's customers. By the time this would be released, the drivers should reach good-enough maturity.

While 3060 was overpriced from the start 6600/6600xt ware giving really great performance per buck, they still are. Maybe amd wants to keep it that way with 7600 series being competitive at the 300$ segment while preparing the 7700/7800xt in the meantime. No that they are in hurry it seems no one is buying 4070 anyway 😀

Interesting decision from AMD if true, but at same time could be a correct one, RDNA gained a lot of traction last weeks with the 6800/6900, but they need something to be competitive on the lower end. People are against the decision of NV keeping 8GB ont he X60 range cards, thats were AMD can disrupt of well played. PS: Not saying that 6600/6650 are bad, they give a nice performance/cost relation, but 3060 being 12GB and DLSS is achieving it some victories.

If these are price below $300, they shoud sell well.

Embra:

If these are price below $400, they shoud sell well.

Fixed that for you!:D

Embra:

If these are price below $300, they shoud sell well.

If they don't skimp on VRAM and the drivers are more polished then yeah, maybe. I would be open to it if it outperforms a 6700XT in 4K, though I'm not keeping my hopes up.

This is nvidia throwing amd a bone fyi. *dont overthink what is going on here.

schmidtbag:

If they don't skimp on VRAM and the drivers are more polished then yeah, maybe. I would be open to it if it outperforms a 6700XT in 4K, though I'm not keeping my hopes up.

It will porobably be 8gb card just like 4060 so it wont be even coming close to 4k. This is a 1080p card.

TimmyP:

This is nvidia throwing amd a bone fyi. *dont overthink what is going on here.

Why would Nvidia do that? They have released many products whose sole existence seemed to just spite or one-up AMD.

Undying:

It will porobably be 8gb card just like 4060 so i wont be even coming close to 4k. This is a 1080p card.

You are very likely right, hence me not keeping my hopes up.

@schmidtbag To be honest, I think you will never find what you are hoping for in a GPU at the price you want. Those days are long gone. This card might play 1440 at acceptible lvls. AMD needs to leave room in the market for the 7700 and 7800. Amazon has a Speedster 6750 xt for $399.

Embra:

@schmidtbag To be honest, I think you will never find what you are hoping for in a GPU at the price you want. Those days are long gone. This card might play 1440 at acceptible lvls. AMD needs to leave room in the market for the 7700 and 7800. Amazon has a Speedster 6750 xt for $399.

In terms of this GPU capable of maybe handling 1440p, yes, you're most likely right about that. As I said to Undying, that had occurred to me, and is why I'm not keeping my hopes up for it - definitely just wishful thinking. Bear in mind though that I currently don't have any expectation of 4K gaming with RT. I have no interest in RT until it can be done on a mainstream GPU in 4K without supersampling. And yes, I know that is many years from now. However, I've been holding onto my R9 290 for almost a decade, so as long as I can play in 4K 60FPS without RT, I can wait. As for "those days are long gone", I see where you're coming from but I disagree. If you just look at release-day performance and prices, there is an obvious trend where things are getting disproportionately more expensive. However, there are a few things to keep in mind: 1. At least when it comes to AMD, they get substantial gains from driver optimizations, especially on Linux (which I solely use). FSR is also slowly improving, though I really don't have much interest in that. So, even if something is slightly underwhelming on release day, it likely won't stay that way. 2. RT has kinda skewed results of what a 4K-ready GPU is, where if that didn't exist, a 3060 Ti or a 6700 would be affordable for 4K, maybe with something like AA turned down a notch or two. In such a universe where DXR didn't exist, we can assume both GPUs would be designed a little differently, where they would probably have better raster performance than they do now. At the very least, they would have more mature drivers. 3. Any time a new major GPU technology was released, it was unpolished, unoptimized, and expensive. RT will trickle down eventually. Of course, GPU prices are rising at an uncomfortable rate, but I predict that won't happen much longer. We're probably never gong to see an Nvidia 60 series or AMD 700 series card drop below $300 MSRP ever again, but people were already unhappy with last-gen prices; nobody is going to suddenly change their mind if prices continue to rise. It's really important that Intel undercut both of them, but the real problem here is that Intel is also using TSMC, which honestly only makes the problem worse.

RX6600 are finally getting "down to earth" prices, so I wonder what RX7600 price tag will be. I've been holding pulling the trigger on RX6600 because it feels wrong to overpay for something and I wanna see how the prices go forward. So far the high-end doesn't look good, but I'm not in the market for them anyway. If RX6600 gets even cheaper after RX7600 lunch I might just grab the old gen and save some money.

With the GPU hangover in full effect i wouldn't be surprised if we just see everything else in the middle of the stack re-branded RX 6000 series cards as they may want to take more time to work on the MCM nature of the RX 7000 to be on point with RX 8000. They have probably realized with the RTX 4070 and the stupid pricing consumers are not at all interested in a 400$ card costing 600$ and will now aim at low-low/mid end before Nvidia beats them to it.

I for one was really looking forward to a soon-ish 7700/7800 release but with these news I pulled the trigger on a new reference 6950XT for the price of a 4070 here in my country. As much as I love the idea of RT and other emerging tech, I still see them sporadically and not-quite-there implementation wise to justify the performance hit and general availability in games overall. Who knows, maybe one day Intel will catch up at high end competitive levels in 1-2 generations and the guys from the neighbourhood will see me as a heretic for running an AMD CPU and Intel GPU. 😀

1) all RDNA 3/ Lovelace gpu procs have long since been fabbed and are warehoused. 2) aib shipments are a separate issue 3) as many have guessed the entry enthusiast cards have been sat on due to economy/ glut of old gpus. i was actually surprised Nvidia released the 4070... bad move according to market. AMD can't weather that kind of mistake so they're holding back for any number of reasons. 1080p cards don't need the vram or the power supplies of modern 1440p cards

tunejunky:

1080p cards don't need the vram or the power supplies of modern 1440p cards

I really do not agree with that 1440p is not much more heavy vram wise vs 1080p... If I am not mistaken the difference is often less than a gb.