lol $700 CDN. What a joke.

I buy AMD ever since Nvidia refused to let SLI run on the 975 chipset, had a pair of 7800gt''s then. Went X1900 Crossfire, and have, and WILL never go Nviida again.... (I even tried Nvidias CRAPTASTIC Nforce chipset also, what a joke...)

FM57:

As many members said already, why on earth would somebody in his right mind buy a Vega (except mining where I did not see any benchmark yet) when there are better products from Nvidia ? Sincerely, please somebody answer factually, not with "drivers are better, the logo is nicer, or I use it to heat my home".

My reasoning: 1. I would like to use the Freesync portion of my Freesync monitor that I got a sweet deal on. 2. I am due for an upgrade. 3. Historically my AMD/Ati cards have performed well, though my nVidia cards have also done well generally. 4. I would like to keep it at least a two horse race (I have been around long enough to see many companies be dickish because they could be). 4. Having said that I will not be paying mining bubble prices so if they don't become MSRP reasonable maybe I won't be getting a Vega anyway. nVidia has the clear performance crown but usually the price to performance market is a lot muddier and I am always shopping in there. An aftermarket Vega 56 still looks like it may be a good fit but it will all come down to pricing.

I will give Vega this, and as much as I want to be one to be an early adopter of the product, given AMD's recent track record with support on Fury, Ryzen, right now performance is not the best it's going to be. That also being said, I'm afraid once these are more readily available market value is going to skyrocket on these... For right now, I see Vega as a gamble. I bought the 1700, but I feel like I don't use it for all one could use it for. I would have been better probably waiting for the 1600, or even the 1500. Vega is about the same way for me, I want it. Will I use it? Probably not, I honestly mostly game at 1080p which is fine for me. If anything, when something comes out at a fair price that is reasonably better than the 480 I have in my opinion be it from AMD or Nvidia, I'll buy it. Or if I get a killer deal.

If your gaming at 1080P a Rx 480 is still a great GPU. Unless you are aiming at a 120 hz monitor you really don't need more then that right now imo. Two of the desktops in our house are on 1080p monitors and the one with a Rx 480 handles everything really well at that resolution. The other one has a Rx 470 and it's still pretty good for all but the most demanding games.

rm082e:

AMD fans will still pay more for AMD hardware, even if it's lower price-to-performance than Nvidia. Even if they cards are more expensive, produce more heat, suck more power, etc. their fans will rationalize it by pointing to FreeSync being cheaper than G-Sync - nevermind how many of them actually bought FreeSync monitors... Any remaining stock will be snatched up by the miners, so AMD is going to sell every single card they make for quite a while. They won't sell nearly as many as Nvidia, and Nvidia still owns the gaming market, but AMD will sell their cards.

1. As of the time of release, Vega56 was CHEAPER than the 1070. When the custom models hit, they will cost the same as the 1070. 2. The Vega56 is FASTER (8-10% in 1440P and 4K) than the 1070. 3. It consumes more power, however, with 1-2 clicks for tuning, it will consume about 10-20, nothing more. 4. Yeah, Sync monitor price difference: ASUS 1440P 144Hz IPS costs 250$ LESS in Freesync. Poor guy.

kastriot:

In that case right minded people(Except miners!) who wants perf/price will buy Nvidia cards but since this ethereum fever nvidia has too increased prices so we are left in middle, too bad there is no other gpu manufacturer we really need it..

Well, if you think manufacturers increased prices, then you are a dumb.

kastriot:

if amd wants to make competitive prices v56 must be 350$ max and v64 450$ or else nvidia will destroy them to pieces, but i guess they don't have enough silicone for gpu-s so will see until end of this year how thing should go..

Absolute bullshit. 100$ difference for a faster GPU? Else it will be destroyed? Lol fanboy.

wsgroves:

I would like to know why would anyone buy these reference cards for gaming? Not being a troll, I really have no idea. Aftermarket card I could see that runs cooler.

Because most aftermarket cards don't have a blower style cooler and you can't have any other type of cooler in a tiny form factor. I used to have a GTX 980 with an open cooler in my Fractal Design Node 202 case and it would overheat all the time. No problems with my reference rx 480 (with a blower cooler) though.

I am also going for Vega 56 even with a blower fan because as of now my custom dual-fan R9 390 eats about 280 watts and heats up everything in my case while being pretty loud, FreeSync already running so that is a no-brainer. Nvidia would be the way to go this time around but they somehow can't manage to support Vesa adaptive sync, could they just create like a G-Sync LE?

BReal85:

1. As of the time of release, Vega56 was CHEAPER than the 1070. When the custom models hit, they will cost the same as the 1070. 2. The Vega56 is FASTER (8-10% in 1440P and 4K) than the 1070. 3. It consumes more power, however, with 1-2 clicks for tuning, it will consume about 10-20, nothing more. 4. Yeah, Sync monitor price difference: ASUS 1440P 144Hz IPS costs 250$ LESS in Freesync. Poor guy.

BReal85:

Well, if you think manufacturers increased prices, then you are a dumb. Absolute bullshit. 100$ difference for a faster GPU? Else it will be destroyed? Lol fanboy.

I'm just gonna go ahead and give you a verbal on this one...Calm down buddy.

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