AMD Navi delayed towards October 2019?

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"The very speculative prices and market segments of the possible cards would be these: RX 3080: GPU Navi 10, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 150 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2070 or GTX 1080, price $ 249. RX 3070: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 120 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2060 or GTX 1070, price $ 199. RX 3060: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 75 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2050 or GTX 1060, price $ 129." Where does this speculation come from HH? The French site or have I missed anything else? đŸ™‚
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BReal85:

"The very speculative prices and market segments of the possible cards would be these: RX 3080: GPU Navi 10, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 150 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2070 or GTX 1080, price $ 249. RX 3070: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 120 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2060 or GTX 1070, price $ 199. RX 3060: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 75 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2050 or GTX 1060, price $ 129." Where does this speculation come from HH? The French site or have I missed anything else? đŸ™‚
Should be noted that there is only one Navi 10 listed. Where is the binning? Apparently they somewhat speculated that Navi 12 will have full chip in RX-3070 and cut down chip in RX-3060... but what is 2nd Navi 10? Is RX-3080 Full chip? If so, then is there going to be RX-3080LE/SE? Or is RX-3080 already cut down and full chip is going to be RX-3090? Generally, segmentation of those speculations does not add up. And if they can't even get that believable... I see no reason to believe the rest. It is similar to 7nm Zen 2 for AM4 rumors... Thay give you all the details with core count per model and clocks... And then AMD shows you 8C/16T and says something like: "Guys, chips are great. We are happy about them. But you'll have to wait till we finalize clock and stuff." It is nice to envision future, but consider it only as one of many possible outcomes or as placeholder information.
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BReal85:

"The very speculative prices and market segments of the possible cards would be these: RX 3080: GPU Navi 10, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 150 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2070 or GTX 1080, price $ 249. RX 3070: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 120 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2060 or GTX 1070, price $ 199. RX 3060: GPU Navi 12, 8 GB GDDR6 and a TDP of 75 W. Performance comparable to RTX 2050 or GTX 1060, price $ 129." Where does this speculation come from HH? The French site or have I missed anything else? đŸ™‚
If I remember correctly, the prices came from a previous rumor....
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schmidtbag:

If true, that's a little disappointing. Those prices look good and we know nothing about their wattage or capability to OC, but I'd still like to see something with a bit more "grunt". I was hoping the Radeon 7 would be more of an "interim flagship", where the real excitement would be found with Navi. But, the R7's Linux performance is in really good shape (actually better than Windows, surprisingly). If the RX 3090 basically ends up being the 8GB variant of the R7 with a hefty price reduction, I would consider getting that.
understandable. the "grunt" will come about 10 months after these hit the market. there has been an energetic discussion re: early release of Arcturus vs. Big Navi. afaik, because of the need to re-tape-out Navi pre-release the mid-market cards were pushed back from a June release. so any thoughts of Big Navi in 2019 are pretty remote. i have the Radeon VII on order as my 1080ti is getting old and i've used it like a race car driver in a rental car. so it looks like Big Navi and Nvidia Turing refresh hit the market around the same time, maybe big navi 3-6 months before.
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ezodagrom:

If I'm not mistaken, the "leaked" specs originally come from AdoredTV, right? I don't find him to be very trustworthy, he can be right about a few things, but he also can be wrong about some of the details, just like his RTX leaks. The RTX leaks, he was right about: - the names RTX 2080 and RTX 2070. - the codenames TU104, TU106, TU116. But he was wrong about: - RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM. - "GTX" 2060 using the TU116 core and having 5GB of VRAM. - the prices and performance estimates.
You might watch this, where he addresses complaints like yours: [youtube=c8EONokJTdU] { www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=c8EONokJTdU } For one thing, you need to balance the importance of what's "right" vs "wrong". AdoredTV might conclude from his analysis that "Model XYZ 7nm 8GB will come out at $300". Then marketing changes that to "Model XZY 7nm 7GB at $295". Forum warriors will rage that three-quarters of his predictions are wrong, it's all BS etc. They'll ignore the important point (a potent 7nm card at ~$300) and just look for things to complain about. I'm surprised that he keeps trying.
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ezodagrom:

But he was wrong about: - RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM.
7GB of VRAM?! Lol. When has anything in computing counts been a 7.
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warlord:

Radeon VII is only average 7% faster than 2070 and 6% slower than 2080. If they release that RX 3080 soon they will obliterate VII. It will surely be delayed 'till Q4 2019.
I'm positive that nVidia wont launch a card this year, after all RTX just came.
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Richard Nutman:

7GB of VRAM?! Lol. When has anything in computing counts been a 7.
I know, right? Yet he was talking about a 7GB VRAM RTX 2070 just a few weeks before it was revealed. Oh, yeah, and in that RTX leak, he also talked about Vega 20 (Radeon VII) competing with Titan RTX.
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ezodagrom:

I know, right? Yet he was talking about a 7GB VRAM RTX 2070 just a few weeks before it was revealed. Oh, yeah, and in that RTX leak, he also talked about Vega 20 (Radeon VII) competing with Titan RTX.
Is Titan RTX gaming card? If not then what is metric which should be used for comparing competitiveness?
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Richard Nutman:

7GB of VRAM?! Lol. When has anything in computing counts been a 7.
Rtx 2080 ti and 1080 ti have 11gb of memory, which is no more or less odd then 7gb