AMD Motherboard Firmwares X570, B550, and A520 motherboards for Ryzen 5000 compatibility

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#5841413
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Ok . As an X470 user, I will have to wait for January 2021 then. Anyone knows whether that would include Ryzen 2xxx series support or not? (On x470 ofcourse). Or would it be discarded to make room for Ryzen 5000 supports?
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mohiuddin:

Ok . As an X470 user, I will have to wait for January 2021 then. Anyone knows whether that would include Ryzen 2xxx series support or not? (On x470 ofcourse). Or would it be discarded to make room for Ryzen 5000 supports?
Last I heard I think that was the rumor so I don't think anyone really knows yet until they release more details. Personally I'm just gonna leave my board as it sits, I really don't wanna go higher than a 3700X.
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This is interesting. Are there any B or X4 series MB that supports PCIE 4.0 with good VRMs? I am OK to buy the last gen MB without the "Intel" MB tax... We need to wait for the CPU prices to settle down... its just crazy right now with speculation prices. I hope AMD can clamp down on their distributors to get the prices right, outside of the USA.
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Valken:

This is interesting. Are there any B or X4 series MB that supports PCIE 4.0 with good VRMs? I am OK to buy the last gen MB without the "Intel" MB tax... We need to wait for the CPU prices to settle down... its just crazy right now with speculation prices. I hope AMD can clamp down on their distributors to get the prices right, outside of the USA.
B550 do (not from chipset), older than 500 series and A520 do not.
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Valken:

This is interesting. Are there any B or X4 series MB that supports PCIE 4.0 with good VRMs? I am OK to buy the last gen MB without the "Intel" MB tax... We need to wait for the CPU prices to settle down... its just crazy right now with speculation prices. I hope AMD can clamp down on their distributors to get the prices right, outside of the USA.
The MSI Tomahawk seems to be well regarded for B550s
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INSTG8R:

The MSI Tomahawk seems to be well regarded for B550s
But MSI has egg all over it's face this week for being GPU grifters.
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0blivious:

But MSI has egg all over it's face this week for being GPU grifters.
They aren’t a company on my personal radar anyway I just see that board be recommended often for B550. I was ASUS until I jumped to Ryzen and have taken a chance on Gigabyte.
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Valken:

This is interesting. Are there any B or X4 series MB that supports PCIE 4.0 with good VRMs? I am OK to buy the last gen MB without the "Intel" MB tax... We need to wait for the CPU prices to settle down... its just crazy right now with speculation prices. I hope AMD can clamp down on their distributors to get the prices right, outside of the USA.
HELL NO. The significant majority of 5700XT issues last year came from B450/X470 boards which manufacturers went rogue and provided pcie 4.0 support on them against AMD. Took 4 months to roll out the bios and force all their users to upgrade removing pcie 4.0. None wants the same issues appearing with 6000 series or RTX3000.
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The BIOS listed for ASUS motherboards have been out for a month now.....you guys are really on the ball...lolol
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X470 series support for the 5000 series chips is going to come down to the size of the UEFI ROM chip size. For example the ASUS x470 Prime Pro has a 256mb ROM chip; I expect zero issue getting a new 5000 series bios as there is plenty of room (aka future proofing). The same will go for 128mb chips; should have no issues. With 64mb chips they will most likely have to remove some of the older chips to make room (like 1st gen and low end second gen). With 32mb chips it will most likely mean removing everything but microcode for 5000 series chips; AMD has a loner chip program for flashing before buying. With 16mb chips you have zero chance; yes some new boards have rinky dink chips on them.
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im buying a b550 motherboard right now, and will wait to 5800x release date probably my motherboard dont have the last bios version, so when i put the ryzen 5800x i can power on pc at bios to update him to work properly, or my pc dont even will work and i need put one ryzen zen 2 only to update the bios?
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squalles:

im buying a b550 motherboard right now, and will wait to 5800x release date probably my motherboard dont have the last bios version, so when i put the ryzen 5800x i can power on pc at bios to update him to work properly, or my pc dont even will work and i need put one ryzen zen 2 only to update the bios?
Some motherboards allow for bios update without CPU and GPU. You need to purchase the right one, or get the cheapest possible Ryzen and sell it once you get a faster CPU. Probably some motherboards will soon be sold as ready to run with 5000.
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Kaleid:

Some motherboards allow for bios update without CPU and GPU. You need to purchase the right one, or get the cheapest possible Ryzen and sell it once you get a faster CPU. Probably some motherboards will soon be sold as ready to run with 5000.
im buying the asus b550 tuf plus, no chance buy another processor just to do the bios update, in worst case i will send back to store, but thats a big inconvenience
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squalles:

im buying the asus b550 tuf plus, no chance buy another processor just to do the bios update, in worst case i will send back to store, but thats a big inconvenience
Well, I have that mobo and it originally did not have the 1004 bios, which was released 2020/08/18. The mobo needs to have Update AM4 AGESA combo V2 PI 1.0.8.0 or newer for the 5000 series to work.
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Kaleid:

Well, I have that mobo and it originally did not have the 1004 bios, which was released 2020/08/18. The mobo needs to have Update AM4 AGESA combo V2 PI 1.0.8.0 or newer for the 5000 series to work.
This as long as you have that one(latest official AGESA) you can at least boot and flash to the official BIOS.
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mohiuddin:

Ok . As an X470 user, I will have to wait for January 2021 then. Anyone knows whether that would include Ryzen 2xxx series support or not? (On x470 ofcourse). Or would it be discarded to make room for Ryzen 5000 supports?
Jayz2Cents made a video about this in June. As far as I understand, when the new BIOS comes and you apply it, it will only drop the support of the 1000 series.
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Valken:

This is interesting. Are there any B or X4 series MB that supports PCIE 4.0 with good VRMs? I am OK to buy the last gen MB without the "Intel" MB tax... We need to wait for the CPU prices to settle down... its just crazy right now with speculation prices. I hope AMD can clamp down on their distributors to get the prices right, outside of the USA.
PCIe 4.0 on serie 4*0 chipset? officialy no... but most "gaming" or "OC" motherboard have a beta bios that allowing it... but do you really need PCIe 4.0? if yes get a B550 On other hand it is better to get a B450 that support Zen3 over a A520 that is still PCIe 3.0: the B450 is cheaper and allow OC. Whatever you get check the VRM stage (MSI MEG is generaly good, Asus Prime serie is not but ROG and TUF are ok)
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squalles:

im buying a b550 motherboard right now, and will wait to 5800x release date probably my motherboard dont have the last bios version, so when i put the ryzen 5800x i can power on pc at bios to update him to work properly, or my pc dont even will work and i need put one ryzen zen 2 only to update the bios?
it depend of the manufacturer, some can update without the CPU and some can't... read the manual of the board.
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This stuff is getting confusing. I have a Ryzen 5 2600 (Pinnacle Ridge) on an ASRock B450 Gaming K4 with little 16MB ROM, and any BIOS after v3.40 has this warning on it: "ASRock do NOT recommend updating this BIOS if Pinnacle, Raven or Summit Ridge CPU is being used on your system." My board came out of the box with v3.50 o_O I flashed it to the latest v4.20 because, why not, I'm already beyond the recommendation, and it seems to work fine. The RAM has stability problems on older BIOS versions too so...yeah. "ASRock does not recommend fixing your buggy board" for no apparent reason? Just run that DDR4 Samsung B-Die CL16 3200 at CL18 2100...why not! My very similar MSI B450 Gaming Plus has no such warnings, but they did start stripping the fancy graphical stuff out of the BIOS to "lite mode" after some point (I prefer it that way anyway, don't like bling-bling-GUI). The ASRock never had the graphical stuff to begin with. That one is also a 16MB ROM, but then they started releasing a v2 of the boards with 32? 64? MB ROMs.
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I'm still curious if there are any board manufacturers who have any intention to support 300 series boards. In theory they can, but I'm not sure if any of them will. I'm probably just going to wait for AM5 if my board won't be supported.

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