AMD mentions Vega Enthusiast GPUs to be released H1 2017
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Bleib
There's been plenty of times when AMD was the more efficient out there, but sadly they have not been able to compete with this for many years now. On the plus side GPUs like 290x have gained quite a lot of rending power with gradually better drivers.
And it seems that Nvidia put in use tile-based rendering on the new chips which have made them even more efficient, a very clever move.
Personally I have no interest in phys-x either, in fact it deserves to die out because it is brand-specific just like Creative's EAX deserved to die because it was only good with their own cards, all other cards did poor emulation and it sounded all wrong.
pharma
Around June 2017 Vega will have to perform similar to 1080/TitanX but it is possible Nvidia will be introducing Volta, so Vega will also have to have that in it's sights.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/41420-nvidia-nvlink-2-0-arrives-in-ibm-servers-next-year
Noisiv
SWEET!
Thee more I wait, the more powerful GPU I will be able to buy. + I also save moneys.
I cant possibly lose...
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Stormyandcold
Well, it's nearly September and there's no sign that my card is dropping in price. Infact, £10 more (£430).
However, perhaps there is some positive out of this; devs will optimise for Pascal and in effect Nvidia more due to market-share? Next 9-10months with "known" graphics cards to support is actually not too bad. All change Summer next year, but, this is a great opportunity for devs to cater for Nvidia users on PC side of gaming.
Corbus
Not good at all, was amd/ati this late before?
Kaarme
While in theory I try to get every other card from both sources, in practice I've had more Nvidia cards. For my own part I absolutely hate those brand specific features and I wish they would just die out or become free game. It certainly never visited my mind that I need to get the next card from Nvidia again because of them. If a game runs like **** on the "wrong" GPU because of them, I blame the game studio for being lousy coders not worth their C, and be careful about giving any money to them in the future (although I've yet to play such a game).
This is also why I might not ever (relatively speaking) have an adaptive refresh rate screen. Fortunately my current screen is a quality one, so I don't even need to think about it for a while.
CPC_RedDawn
So you would rather AMD go out of business and Nvidia have control over the whole market? That was be extremely bad for us the consumer.
Also, you wouldn't give up Nvidia for AMD because of some gimmicky features that are barely used or when they are used break a games performance even on Nvidia's cards themselves.... How many Gameworks titles have come out in the past three years that have been completely broken on both AMD and Nvidia cards and people have had to turn those features way down or off.
If it wasn't for AMD we wouldn't have Mantle, yes I know its only supported in like three titles, without Mantle we wouldn't be getting half the features we are in DX12 and AMD basically gave all their code to the OpenGL team to create Vulkun.
AMD's marketshare also went up 11% with the release of Polaris and the unveiling of Zen so things are looking very good for AMD right now.
PrMinisterGR
How certain are these news? The last official transcript with JP Morgan had Vega launching at the end of this year.
They had a "rollout" party for Vega on June 23. It might be true, but this piece of news sounds quite a lot like that "Polaris is stuck at 850MHz" one.
Denial
AMD wouldn't go out of business, someone would buy them. I can also only think of one or two games that have been "broken" and with Batman I'm not convinced that it was Gameworks. What other games are there? You can say Witcher 3, but AMD fixed HW performance with a driver update that reduced tessellation. You can say Project Cars, but AMD didn't submit anything to the game developer for almost a year before launch.
R6 Siege has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. The Division has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. Deus Ex has both PhysX and Flex and it runs better on AMD than Nvidia. How do you explain these titles? Is Gameworks only gimping some games and not others, or is game development just more complex then most people on guru3d are willing to admit?
Ryu5uzaku
win/win situation right there. I just bought this 980ti from a friend so it will carry me over to whatever comes 2017 easy 😀 It also means I am waiting with the idea of buying a new monitor until 2017. Which means more choices and better prices...
Ryu5uzaku
Only thing hindering performance on either camp is poor coding by devs or 0 help from amd/nvidia. Imo.
LimitbreakOr
I find you very offensive and just plain wrong as every point you've made favouring Nvidia is silly. You can't reinforce your opinions with ad hominem attacks without your self sounding like a uninformed moron.
sykozis
Most, don't even know Inspector exists. Most, don't actually care about PhysX. Most, know nothing about Gameworks. You're trying to project what you think you know about enthusiasts onto the rest of the market. The majority of the market would prefer to see open-platform, vendor agnostic features than vendor specific.
Stormyandcold
Err, I don't think the majority of the market even cares about open-platform etc either tbh if you're talking consumers.
The majority market care about games working and not crashing, fast loading, looks good, fun to play. Anything else is only talked about by enthusiasts.
-Tj-
I think you will be fine until proper DX12 next-gen gpus => Nvidia Volta and AMD Navi in Q4 2017 or H1 2018.
Stormyandcold
Looking at this presentation, which is part of the first post of this thread; https://app.scoutfin.com/document.html?id=57c01d11fcd1d0bb759fd048&_branch_match_id=297670879870932296 , I think it's pretty certain. I don't think this is actually a rumour, but, 100% legit information for investors to know what's going on and their business strategy moving forward.
The Polaris rumour, while "not true", might have had some "truth" to it at some point as Polaris doesn't clock well in general. It also could've been related to the RX 470, rather than RX 480.
Next-gen AMD graphics roll-out will be throughout 2017+2018 according to the presentation.
moeppel
Well, original speculations were Q1 '17.
The Q4 '16 October release(s) never seemed to have anything to back them up.
That said, 'H1' leaves a lot of leeway to, at worst, move a potential release to the end of Q2.
If nothing else I am, at this point, quite happy to have picked up a cheap Fury Nitro. Given the current situation of the market the Fury Nitro for around 300~350€ likely gives you the best 2560*1440 performance out there for its price.
Initially I thought the price drop may be due to an unexpected early Vega release. Instead it may simply have been to discourage 1070 purchases - especially since there was no reason not when the Fury's weren't cut in price.
Fox2232
Same here, but I hope 8C/16T Zen will perform. Because I'll not buy new GPU without new CPU/MB.
And I would not mind more RAM too. Things I do often choke on poor old 16GB ram + SSD swap.
Ryu5uzaku
For sure. Easy, since I have some performance to be unlocked by changing cpu/mobo/ram somewhere in between november and march.
AlmondMan
Hurt myself? How? I don't know what Inspector is. The last game I remember releasing with any PhysX in it, that wasn't the CPU-version, was Borderlands 2 and that's what, 4 years old? Physx needs to just die. Gameworks? Can't recall playing any game where that was an upside.
No, nVidia has been pricegouging and doing nothing but developing dull products for years now, trying to put a value spin on them by having nonsense features like "Ansel" - as if I'll ever take a single screenshot with it, Shadowplay and other things that almost noone will ever use in reality.
Get your rhetoric under control.
