AMD demos silent WRAITH cooler and some ZEN Info

LimitbreakOr

2016-01-09 09:49

I dont know why but for some reason im looking forward to this and i want amd to make my 5960X look like crap. I'm biased against what i actually own!

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CrazY_Milojko

2016-01-09 09:59

Supernatural Style cooler... wth, am I missing something!? I could swear that I already saw this cooler's heatsink body on some of my Phenom II Black Edition CPU's with just a bit thinner fan, everything else looks the same. Hurry up AMD with those Zen's...

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Koniakki

2016-01-09 10:19

I'm cheering for AMD too this round cpu/gpu wise. But the bold part in the quote worries me a bit. Quote: "The 8-core processor would get with 512KB L2 cache per core and 16 MB of L3 cache divided onto two 8MB clusters for 2x 4 Core modules."

#5216777

Clawedge

2016-01-09 10:22

if only they made efficient chips, they wouldnt need such massive coolers. come amd, get your **** together, you have been behind for some 5 years now. yeah i am an amd fan, and i just built myself an i7 system. never been happier. sigh amd, SIGH

#5216782

KissSh0t

2016-01-09 11:08

if only they made efficient chips, they wouldnt need such massive coolers. come amd, get your **** together, you have been behind for some 5 years now. yeah i am an amd fan, and i just built myself an i7 system. never been happier. sigh amd, SIGH

The current stock cooler with FX chips are for lack of a better word.... ****.. AMD needed to make a better cooler.

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Kohlendioxidus

2016-01-09 13:03

I'm looking forward to Zen, altough my FX8350 still going strong (no complains) I will upgrade just for the sake of it!!!:banana: GO AMD GO...I'm sold on Zen. Just a question, I have my Corsair H100i and hope I can install it on AM4 (Looks like the Retention Clips are similar with AM3+). I don' expect the boxed cooler to be a "jaw bracker" from performance point of view.

#5216809

xIcarus

2016-01-09 13:32

I'm cheering for AMD too this round cpu/gpu wise. But the bold part in the quote worries me a bit. Quote: "The 8-core processor would get with 512KB L2 cache per core and 16 MB of L3 cache divided onto two 8MB clusters for 2x 4 Core modules."

Oh dear.. They gonna share FPUs again? This really killed the FX-8350's AVX performance.

#5216811

WrathZERO

2016-01-09 13:39

Atleast put up the video youtube.com/watch?v=soc5x_4IACQ

#5216816

nz3777

2016-01-09 13:47

Any word on pricing (Zen) or is it to early to tell? My guess would be Amd needs to be better on price if Zen does perform the way its intended to, If it were me I would price them 20-30 dollars (cheeper) then a unlocked i5 but this all depends on how well the chip can perform. I have my fingers crossed but i am not expecting a miracle lol.:)

#5216820

YQ4869

2016-01-09 13:56

It's incredible that this thing has LED lights. it can only lead to rising costs

#5216832

poornaprakash

2016-01-09 14:20

Not that way...

Oh dear.. They gonna share FPUs again? This really killed the FX-8350's AVX performance.

They are not sharing FPU again. What that means is that 4 cores makes one unit so 8 core means two such units with separate 8MB caches totaling 16MB. The new Zen core is 8 Core = 8 Core + SMT

#5216833

David3k

2016-01-09 14:26

I'm cheering for AMD too this round cpu/gpu wise. But the bold part in the quote worries me a bit. Quote: "The 8-core processor would get with 512KB L2 cache per core and 16 MB of L3 cache divided onto two 8MB clusters for 2x 4 Core modules."

From the looks of things, they are only sharing resources that are typically shared across cores, like the L3 Cache, which is almost always shared by all the cores on any CPU that has them... even on Team Blue CPUs. Every indicator from what we know up to now states that each core in Zen has its own Floating Point Unit, and we're not seeing anything that contradicts that. What I suspect is actually is, is something packaging-related; A Zen Module is a quad-core design, and each core is SMT capable. So two Zen "Modules" is 8 physical cores, and can enable SMT for 16 treads or "logical cores". From a design standpoint, this makes a lot of sense and if the L3 Cache is part of the modules but "linkable" to other L3 Caches on the CPU package, you could have as many as four "Modules", which also makes sense considering the needs in the server-space. Edit: damnit, you beat me to it!

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Kohlendioxidus

2016-01-09 15:13

Atleast put up the video youtube.com/watch?v=soc5x_4IACQ

thanks man, you indirectly answer my question. The new cooler looks to be almost double in size so looks like no AM4 match for old coolinng devices....:bang:

#5216865

-Tj-

2016-01-09 15:54

They are not sharing FPU again. What that means is that 4 cores makes one unit so 8 core means two such units with separate 8MB caches totaling 16MB. The new Zen core is 8 Core = 8 Core + SMT

This. So in reality it will be a 16threaded cpu.

#5216879

thesebastian

2016-01-09 17:00

I'll probably never abandon my NH-U12S (So I wont use a stock cooler again), but this AMD cooler is really beautiful.

#5216881

icedman

2016-01-09 17:06

Its good to see them upgrading the cpu cooler, the cooler they sent out with the 5800k was pretty sad and cant even handle it at stock without severe throttling. Intel is even worse sending out the pathetic coolers they do with their expensive unlocked cpus they're better off saving the money and not sending anything with the unlocked versions.

#5216904

xIcarus

2016-01-09 18:13

Its good to see them upgrading the cpu cooler, the cooler they sent out with the 5800k was pretty sad and cant even handle it at stock without severe throttling. Intel is even worse sending out the pathetic coolers they do with their expensive unlocked cpus they're better off saving the money and not sending anything with the unlocked versions.

Amen lol, Intel's stock coolers are pathetic. Not really good at cooling stuff and noisy as hell.

#5216916

fry178

2016-01-09 18:45

@Clawedge +1 dont care much for faster cpu performance (intel vs amd), but losing 20-30% on sata/usb etc, not funny...

#5216918

Fox2232

2016-01-09 18:56

I'm cheering for AMD too this round cpu/gpu wise. But the bold part in the quote worries me a bit. Quote: "The 8-core processor would get with 512KB L2 cache per core and 16 MB of L3 cache divided onto two 8MB clusters for 2x 4 Core modules."

I do not think text was written by AMD. They would not write this:

The GCN based IGP will support HSA (stacked graphics memory).

#5216924

schmidtbag

2016-01-09 19:25

Whether or not AMD does a similar module or FPU system to Bulldozer, I don't think they're dumb enough to make the same design mistakes twice. Remember - Hyper Threading was a joke when Pentium 4 first released it. HT was so bad that Intel dropped it for 2 architectures. But they brought it back and improved upon it. The current Excavator cores are pretty competitive, but it's really as good as the Bulldozer architecture is going to get, and that's probably why AMD is just starting fresh while still taking after their previous designs.