8/16 cheaper than I got my 6/12 just a few years ago. Thanks AMD 🙂

9600K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHLX1R8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538996602&sr=8-1&keywords=Intel&refinements=p_n_condition-type%3A6461716011

9900k not listed anymore. I guess it won't stay at this price very long. Anyway I think $500 is quite expensive compared to a R7 2700(x) and Threadripper 1920x that are both cheaper. Let see if in real life, it is worth the price once it's out. I will wait 2020 to change my i7 6950x just bought 4 months ago for just about $650 but for real, it cost me $450 by getting rid of my 5820k. A fair price for this 10 core @ 4.4GHz.

500$ I thought it would be more, with the price escalation with the intel's cpus ... But even so salty ...

I don't the i5 9600k would be any kind of upgrade over the i5 8600k. Mine is at 5.0ghz, and if I delid it could hit 5.2ghz. I could see the 9900k as one though.

This mess is only happening because Intel was caught pants down by AMD, and the Intel brass had no clear plans for how to proceed. So, they are pumping out CPUs with little thought to how the whole selection looks from generation to generation from now on. Whether the HT is enabled in a particular CPU model is seemingly decided with a coin.

I thought that HT would have been standardized by now with all of the Ryzen chips on the market?

MK80:

500$ I thought it would be more, with the price escalation with the intel's cpus ... But even so salty ...

This is just the intro price - I wouldn't be surprised to see $600 a week after release (and that's assuming that this isn't just another (semi-)paper launch).

RzrTrek:

I thought that HT would have been standardized by now with all of the Ryzen chips on the market?

It's a trap. Many will go for CPU without HT. Intel cashes in... People get product which will have to be replaced sooner. But buying intel's chips today is for someone who is willing to spend extra for minor difference in some specific workload. So, they are surely willing to pay for upgrade next year anyway.

Dam what a price, my 8700k was only £280 brand new from Amazon

Fox2232:

It's a trap. Many will go for CPU without HT. Intel cashes in... People get product which will have to be replaced sooner. But buying intel's chips today is for someone who is willing to spend extra for minor difference in some specific workload. So, they are surely willing to pay for upgrade next year anyway.

What are you blabbering about, most people upgrade every 4, 6 or even 10 years only.

Glottiz:

What are you blabbering about, most people upgrade every 4, 6 or even 10 years only.

About value. Buy 6C/6T or 8C/8T over-expensive chip which has lower longevity than cheaper alternative with HT. If you are someone who is willing to pay extra for that ST performance, then you are someone willing to upgrade more often.

I wonder if they come with the Spectre/Meltdown patches applied or will they bench the shit out of them and wait for someone else to point out the vulnerability is still there and never re-bench.

way to go Intel. of course they've had (and still have) a way to go... i was extremely worried that Intel would miss the $500 target, which although overpriced is still within reason. the elaborate branding and premier pricing... well of course it sucks, but you get that awesome Dungeons and Dragons die...err box. this is why i constantly want to b*tch-slap Intel marketing. i guarantee they spent more time and resources designing and manufacturing that box than they did on logistics for the release of the cpu.

these are gamer's CPU and you are talking about HT, cores or Ryzen threadripper you clearly are not the target what does the 9900k offer ? 5Ghz stock clock speed for 1-2 cores stock as in no overclocking, no memory compatibility problems, no problems at all you just install boot and it works the only thing that matters for 99% of the games especially the older or non-AAA ones also even the new ones google : forza horizon cpu core problem the game basically use only one core Turn10 says it's on purpose >< which proves my point really as a gamer you want 1-4 cores with high speed and the rest does not matter and this is what those cpus bring, sli being pretty much dead we don't care about cpu lanes as much (I had SLI on 580-680-780-980-1080 so I know a "little" about it and dropped it in favor of a single 1080ti, my target being 120fps in 1080p) - yeah my turnaround is around 4 years for example - I'm not saying those are better CPUs for me the recent AMDs are better still like I said as a gamer only clock speed matters and work cpus have low speeds so I'm getting a 9900k, losing 500Mhz or more clock is a huge difference in some games - that said before actually buying one I'm going to have to see what kind of MB lanes I'm getting because I also need 10Gbit network which take 4 lanes and a lot of USB ports, this could be a problem depending on how the motherboard is configured

Fox2232:

About value. Buy 6C/6T or 8C/8T over-expensive chip which has lower longevity than cheaper alternative with HT. If you are someone who is willing to pay extra for that ST performance, then you are someone willing to upgrade more often.

Your beliefs are wrong. People buy Intels because they last years. I am willing to pay extra specifically because I do NOT upgrade often, it's better for gaming, and will last a very, very long time until I decide to upgrade again. I don't buy them because I upgrade more often. I am buying a 9900k and haven't bought a processor in almost eight years. I will upgrade it after six or seven years, and only sooner if some new technology comes out that blows it away.

fantaskarsef:

8/16 cheaper than I got my 6/12 just a few years ago. Thanks AMD 🙂

You can thank them buying their products.

David H:

Your beliefs are wrong. People buy Intels because they last years. I am willing to pay extra specifically because I do NOT upgrade often, it's better for gaming, and will last a very, very long time until I decide to upgrade again. I don't buy them because I upgrade more often. I am buying a 9900k and haven't bought a processor in almost eight years. I will upgrade it after six or seven years, and only sooner if some new technology comes out that blows it away.

I know since Ryzen gen 1 I'll be getting a Ryzen CPU. Gen 1 I skipped because of memory price and stability. Gen 2 I skipped because of memory price. I'm hopeful about Gen 3, but I really need it cuz my 2500k doesn't like Battlefield 1 at all.

David H:

Your beliefs are wrong. People buy Intels because they last years. I am willing to pay extra specifically because I do NOT upgrade often, it's better for gaming, and will last a very, very long time until I decide to upgrade again. I don't buy them because I upgrade more often. I am buying a 9900k and haven't bought a processor in almost eight years. I will upgrade it after six or seven years, and only sooner if some new technology comes out that blows it away.

Your i7-2700K is not good for gaming for quite some time. It is not only way below current CPUs in ST performance (unable to reach very high fps). But it does not have sufficient throughput to deliver stutter free experience with games that use high amount of resources (high res textures, a lot of caching, ...). I moved from Sandy for that reason, one can push it only that far, and last few years were quite painful. Then 2700X and bum, everything lovely. Just because you have obsolete CPU and high end GPU in same PC does not mean others DIY PC builders would do same. It's actually pretty insane. Number of games where i7-2700K breaks/limits gaming experience with RTX-2080 is quite high regardless of resolution.

Fox2232:

Your i7-2700K is not good for gaming for quite some time. It is not only way below current CPUs in ST performance (unable to reach very high fps). But it does not have sufficient throughput to deliver stutter free experience with games that use high amount of resources (high res textures, a lot of caching, ...). I moved from Sandy for that reason, one can push it only that far, and last few years were quite painful. Then 2700X and bum, everything lovely. Just because you have obsolete CPU and high end GPU in same PC does not mean others DIY PC builders would do same. It's actually pretty insane. Number of games where i7-2700K breaks/limits gaming experience with RTX-2080 is quite high regardless of resolution.

The 2700k with a 970 GTX was giving me 100+ FPS in PUBG, and I typically play CS:GO competitively and as such my CPU has been fine. But yes, I want 144 FPS on ultra on newer games coming out and am in the process of actually doing a new build. I bought the GPU first, and am still waiting on the 9900k to do the rest.

The unprecedented advent of Solder is an exciting development. What does solder mean for CPU's in the future? Is this our world now? Is this our world?