8-core Zhaoxin KX-6000 Desktop x86 CPU Soon Available In China

schmidtbag

2020-01-31 18:35

Seems oddly expensive for what you're getting. But hey, sure would make for an interesting review article!

anticupidon:

So, last year Russian federation announced a partnership with Chinese government developing their own OS Linux based and having also a hardware platform for it, they are separating themselves from whole world as in consuming what Intel and Microsoft are offering.

Not sure if you're aware of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

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anticupidon

2020-01-31 18:39

I am. And even more. But i'll keep it to myself, don't want to overstep into the loonie Linux zealot profile.

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JamesSneed

2020-01-31 19:50

I have to assume the current prices are intended to keep sales down. Maybe they want some time to get the stock built up, or flesh out bugs, or something along those lines where keeping volumes lower is beneficial. Right now there is no reason to buy one of these unless you want to treat it like a collectors item or do some type of academic research. I'm sure we will see huge price drops and various models at some point.

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ruthan

2020-02-01 04:34

You never know, maybe it would be exported to North Korea and used with Red Star Linux..

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RooiKreef

2020-02-01 06:14

HUH??? I'm confused about the price of this product. I like the fact that there is another player in the CPU world, but at that price I think this will be their last product.

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anticupidon

2020-02-01 08:32

RooiKreef:

HUH??? I'm confused about the price of this product. I like the fact that there is another player in the CPU world, but at that price I think this will be their last product.

This is absolutely nothing compared to the very purpose of this CPU . Chinese government poured astronomically amounts of money in whole towns, now ghost towns in ruins. Just to look that they are developing and flourishing. It's a proof of concept, it's a long time development and design fruition. For average Joe it just doesn't make sense. But whatever we can say or think, to some this CPU, this hardware component makes all the sense in the world.

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umeng2002

2020-02-02 03:45

"Why does my computer switch off every time there is a natural disaster or political scandal in China?"

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0blivious

2020-02-02 09:45

It's not often that new hardware news reminds me of what a pathetic species we truly are. Humans distrust of one another will be our ultimate downfall.

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fry178

2020-02-02 15:38

4 main reasons for them to do this: - easier to collect data from their population - less money leaving the country (hw purchase) - less chance of other gov spying on china - showing their citizens: "we can compete with intel/amd, and make "the same" thing"

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anticupidon

2020-02-02 18:30

Just accostumed to see threads derailed for less. Careful about politics or political figures. This is about hardware. Implications could be discussed to a hypothetical plane, but let's stay on track.

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Size_Mick

2020-02-02 18:43

I've always wondered whether something like this could be done: a completely proprietary hardware and software environment. I only envisioned it for government use, for security reasons. The whole point would be that non-governmental people wouldn't have the means to access it. I never thought about making everyone use it, but I wasn't thinking in terms of cutting people's access to the outside world, either.

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warlord

2020-02-02 18:55

anticupidon:

Just accostumed to see threads derailed for less. Careful about politics or political figures. This is about hardware. Implications could be discussed to a hypothetical plane, but let's stay on track.

But those custom made 3rd rate cpus are created for political reasons. 🙄

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anticupidon

2020-02-02 19:07

Yes, but we can talk very diplomatic about it

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sykozis

2020-02-02 19:17

JamesSneed:

I have to assume the current prices are intended to keep sales down. Maybe they want some time to get the stock built up, or flesh out bugs, or something along those lines where keeping volumes lower is beneficial. Right now there is no reason to buy one of these unless you want to treat it like a collectors item or do some type of academic research. I'm sure we will see huge price drops and various models at some point.

Why would they need to keep sales down? This will only be available in China, and possibly Russia and North Korea.... This isn't going to be a Global product.

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toyo

2020-02-02 20:09

0blivious:

It's not often that new hardware news reminds me of what a pathetic species we truly are. Humans distrust of one another will be our ultimate downfall.

There are thousands of years of documented conflict, you expect it to end in a few decades? My country for example has been colonized from 3 nearby empires for centuries. Forgive us for being reluctant about other people's intentions.

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Fediuld

2020-02-04 10:19

sverek:

Easy for you to conclude after reading following replies 😀 Another note. Is military gear really using X86? Maybe something with more "RISC" wink wink.

Naval vessels of all kinds do use either windows or Unix/Linux or BSD. Is not just missiles the "military gear". But communications software, radars, EDIs, computers in offices managing, designing and developing such gear, software managing sattelite and airplane photographs. If you get involved in the area, you will find even helicopter missile guidance software is written in x86 using VB.net. 😉

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Andrew LB

2020-02-05 15:38

reix2x:

So if the zhaoxin cpu is using x86 architecture and all the normal standards the must have licenses for all that? It would be funnier if they had worked on a risc-v chip. Sometimes I feel there is no enough talk about that possible next mass architecture

Yes, AMD made some shady dealings and pretty much handed over their CPU designs.

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Astyanax

2020-02-05 16:16

Andrew LB:

Yes, AMD made some shady dealings and pretty much handed over their CPU designs.

This is a product of the VIA-China venture.

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fantaskarsef

2020-02-06 07:14

I don't know, but do you really think that they need a joint venture to get CPU designs? And not just a working wafer? Or some schematics in a chipmaker's lab to see what's happening? I honestly doubt that AMD gave the Chinese much more than they already had. I'm also fairly certain they have Intel blueprints etc.

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anticupidon

2020-02-06 07:47

It just doesn't matter at this point on who gets the "blame". The x86 license was held by AMD, Intel and VIA if my memory still serves. Nothing will stop Chinese government to allocate funds to develop custom CPU and hardware. Once they're have the platform up and running, no western agencies will be able to use their backdoors on hardware/software exploits. They are far from being fully protected, just even harder to surveillance.