Zyxel to bring 10G LAN to home/SOHO networks

#5763873

G0dly

2020-02-27 11:44

Would be more impressed if it had 8x 2.5gbit ports, the network industry doesn't half move slow!

#5763902

wavetrex

2020-02-27 13:07

Indeed, kinda pointless. Yes let's say that the company server goes into one of those ports, and the Wifi AP goes into the other... but in the end, nobody will actually access the server faster, it's just that more people can access it at the same time without slowdowns, which is not very useful. This switch does have all 8 ports as 2.5gbps: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B079Z2SHCX/ I actually have one, as I caught a really good sale on BF, basically getting it for half the list price ! Combined with some 2.5gbps cards and USB adapters, I can access (almost) any of my computers at full ~300 MB/s speeds !

#5763934

ruthan

2020-02-27 14:31

Why is evolution of these so slow? Is there problem of main chip performance or what? Its performance problem, they can just start with some models with active cooling. This shouldnt be rocket science, after 15 years just make same thing 2.5 or 10x faster.. i thing that computing horse power grew enough.

#5763940

Richard Nutman

2020-02-27 14:42

ruthan:

Why is evolution of these so slow? Is there problem of main chip performance or what? Its performance problem, they can just start with some models with active cooling. This shouldnt be rocket science, after 15 years just make same thing 2.5 or 10x faster.. i thing that computing horse power grew enough.

It's a chicken and egg situation. You need devices to support 2.5Gbe, but they don't because everyone only has 1Gbe switches, and there's no point buying better switches because all devices only use 1Gbe! Switch makers really need to start making all home devices capable of 2.5 or 5Gbe as standard and then after sufficient market penetration, device manufacturers will start to use it.

#5763994

JamesSneed

2020-02-27 17:33

Richard Nutman:

It's a chicken and egg situation. You need devices to support 2.5Gbe, but they don't because everyone only has 1Gbe switches, and there's no point buying better switches because all devices only use 1Gbe! Switch makers really need to start making all home devices capable of 2.5 or 5Gbe as standard and then after sufficient market penetration, device manufacturers will start to use it.

Also it's about who is paying the premium? In the data center is was obvious they all want more bandwidth. For non data center use cases though I have to assume right now now its less than 1% of router/switch users that would pay a premium to get more than Gigabit. No point in making a product that won't sell.

#5764036

386SX

2020-02-27 19:36

Thanks for this helpful story. A friend of mine works in a very small company consisting of 3 or 4 3D architects using AutoCAD, Solidworks, PTC and stuff. Seems like a reasonable core switch for access to their storage.

#5764130

sykozis

2020-02-28 02:09

For the average home user in the US, 2.5Gbe is a waste of money. Don't need a 2.5Gbe switch for a 100Mbps or slower connection. Data can only move at the rate of the slowest connection anyway. How many countries outside of the US have internet connections that exceed 1Gbps? Until there is a wide spread need for 2.5Gbe switches, manufacturers aren't going to rush to release products. Only people with home servers really have a defined need for them right now.

#5764228

Richard Nutman

2020-02-28 10:10

In the UK, Virgin Media (who I'm with) are already doing 1Gbps trials for home internet. Wont be long until more than that is available. But the main point of a switch with 2.5Gbe is surely for improved LAN speeds.

#5764801

xrodney

2020-02-29 22:42

Richard Nutman:

It's a chicken and egg situation. You need devices to support 2.5Gbe, but they don't because everyone only has 1Gbe switches, and there's no point buying better switches because all devices only use 1Gbe! Switch makers really need to start making all home devices capable of 2.5 or 5Gbe as standard and then after sufficient market penetration, device manufacturers will start to use it.

You can easily get Intel X540-T2 dualport 10Gbe enterprise NIC for under $100 on ebay so for clients there is not an issue, problem is only with the lack of switches.

sykozis:

For the average home user in the US, 2.5Gbe is a waste of money. Don't need a 2.5Gbe switch for a 100Mbps or slower connection. Data can only move at the rate of the slowest connection anyway. How many countries outside of the US have internet connections that exceed 1Gbps? Until there is a wide spread need for 2.5Gbe switches, manufacturers aren't going to rush to release products. Only people with home servers really have a defined need for them right now.

Why would you need fast speed just for WAN ? There are plenty gigabit switches that offer 1-2 10gbe ports for WAN, what we would like to have is faster local network when you streaming stuff between PCS, use NAS, make a backups etc. For me personaly silent 16 port switch with 8x1Gbe and 8x 10Gbe ports plus 1-2x 10gbe WAN ports under $400 would be steal for home network. Even better if few of those 1Gbe ports and 1x10GBe supports POE for powering wifi AP and IP cameras, but thats probaly too much dreaming.

#5764810

HeavyHemi

2020-02-29 23:52

sykozis:

For the average home user in the US, 2.5Gbe is a waste of money. Don't need a 2.5Gbe switch for a 100Mbps or slower connection. Data can only move at the rate of the slowest connection anyway. How many countries outside of the US have internet connections that exceed 1Gbps? Until there is a wide spread need for 2.5Gbe switches, manufacturers aren't going to rush to release products. Only people with home servers really have a defined need for them right now.

Sure because folks only move data around the internet and not around their home. Come on now...., I know you're not this limited in your thinking.

#5764860

sykozis

2020-03-01 05:56

I'm going to address both of you at one time @rodney and @HeavyHemi since neither of you managed to actually READ what you were responding to. The AVERAGE USER has no need for 2.5Gbe, much less 10Gbe..... People that have home media servers, or that transfer gigabytes of data around a home network, are NOT the AVERAGE USER.

#5764902

xrodney

2020-03-01 12:48

sykozis:

I'm going to address both of you at one time @rodney and @HeavyHemi since neither of you managed to actually READ what you were responding to. The AVERAGE USER has no need for 2.5Gbe, much less 10Gbe..... People that have home media servers, or that transfer gigabytes of data around a home network, are NOT the AVERAGE USER.

Well your average user is changing. Many young people are interested in IT and for many of them gigabit is too slow already. And answer to you, I am not average user, HOWEVER my wife and family is and primary need for more than gigabit is because of them.