Zen 3-based Ryzen detailed, 16-core model with 4.6GHz boost and rumored 20% IPC increase

#5790250

Clawedge

2020-05-20 09:19

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#5790251

Matt26LFC

2020-05-20 09:21

About what I expected for this one. Not expecting more cores this time around, not that I need them for everyday stuff lol Maybe Zen4 we'll see more cores, which is still insane tbf

#5790252

Devid

2020-05-20 09:42

I just wonder if A0 runs at this frequency, how much could increase with the final product?Extra 100-300MHz maybe? If the rumoured 15-20% IPC increase is true than the prices will go up crazy. Intel will have no answer on these until they come out with their 7nm architecture.

#5790255

cryohellinc

2020-05-20 09:49

Devid:

I just wonder if A0 runs at this frequency, how much could increase with the final product?Extra 100-300MHz maybe? If the rumoured 15-20% IPC increase is true than the prices will go up crazy. Intel will have no answer on these until they come out with their 7nm architecture.

Highly unlikely, AMD makes massive profits already,but their main goal is a bigger market share. The strategy is to grab as much as possible while Intel struggles, instead of trying to settle down with what they have already gained.

#5790256

Devid

2020-05-20 09:57

cryohellinc:

Highly unlikely, AMD makes massive profits already,but their main goal is a bigger market share. The strategy is to grab as much as possible while Intel struggles, instead of trying to settle down with what they have already gained.

Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them. I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform. I wish I wasn't right. I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.

#5790258

asturur

2020-05-20 10:01

So not great clock advantages with new arch and improved process. Not a big deal for me, i was hoping something like 200 extra mhz I cross finger for my x470 and a cpu swap in september.

#5790259

asturur

2020-05-20 10:03

Also today intel 10th gen performance nda uplift, so this may be just strategic infos.

#5790260

Fediuld

2020-05-20 10:04

asturur:

So not great clock advantages with new arch and improved process. Not a big deal for me, i was hoping something like 200 extra mhz I cross finger for my x470 and a cpu swap in september.

These are Engineering Samples :P 4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.

#5790262

sverek

2020-05-20 10:12

Damn AMD, stop it. I want to skip this DDR4 thing all alone.

#5790267

Aztec2Step

2020-05-20 10:23

Oh my! My epeen appears to be tingling... 😕

#5790268

cryohellinc

2020-05-20 10:37

Devid:

Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them. I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform. I wish I wasn't right. I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.

It wasn't related to AMD, rather the resalers were to blame. Prices increased due to insanely high demand for Threadripper products, the same goes for Ryzen CPU's. Once the supply was able to catch up prices settled down. At least that was the case locally.

Fediuld:

These are Engineering Samples 😛 4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.

Slap on top of it better IPC and we have a massive performance boost.

#5790269

itpro

2020-05-20 10:38

It has better IPC and more threads than all Intel offerings. Still, people will give their soul for half a ghz just epeen reasoning. I need to see power consumption in real world scenarios to decide who is more retard. Amd fanboys or Intel ones. 😕

#5790271

BuildeR2

2020-05-20 10:47

Fediuld:

These are Engineering Samples 😛 4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.

This could bode well. I went all out on an X570 board in the hopes that Zen 3 would deliver a CPU that I could sit on for ~5 years, much like I did with my 4770k setup.

sverek:

Damn AMD, stop it. I want to skip this DDR4 thing all alone.

Yeah, I held out on DDR4 as long as I could. Ended up buying some 32GB FlareX B-Die stuff and had a blast tweaking it over the last week, hope for some reasonable resale to somebody still on DDR3 when Zen4/DDR5 are available. Don't be afraid to make the jump right now or with Zen 3, even daily tasks and desktop use saw a massive uptick in responsiveness when I went from 4770k/2400MHz@CL10 to 3600X/3600MHz@CL16. Really loving it right now and I'm prepared for PCIe 4.0 GPU's and NVMe drives around Christmas this year.

#5790273

asturur

2020-05-20 10:48

Devid:

Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them. I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform. I wish I wasn't right. I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.

Thread ripper prices went down on a per core value. The only 4000 dollar cpu had 4 time the cores count of the old one that costed 999. And performance went up. So no, on Zen2 they were still on the cheap side

#5790278

Fediuld

2020-05-20 11:02

Devid:

Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them. I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform. I wish I wasn't right. I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.

Define "skyrocketed". 2990WX had "$53" per core and 3960X "$58", while the W-3265 "$140". And 3960X is faster than all of them. So price wise is absolute bargain. And if you do not like TR4 platform, there is still the 3950X.....

#5790289

Glottiz

2020-05-20 11:35

Have none of you learned anything by now? AMD's product rumors are always too optimistic and embellished.

#5790295

illrigger

2020-05-20 11:43

Devid:

Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them. I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform. I wish I wasn't right. I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.

Despite the concept that AMD is cheaper, they have been price matching Intel performance since Ryzen launched, once you consider the entire platform. They've pushed Intel to make improvements, but from a cost-to-performance standpoint they have very carefully been aligning themselves with what Intel has offered. That's only fair, they should make as much money as they can while driving the market forward. The big difference is when the platform gets ready for the next gen and stock is being cleared and CPUs end up dropping 25% - that never happened with Intel, as they were more careful to choke supply chains in the last few months before a launch, maintaining their retail pricing.

#5790302

Mesab67

2020-05-20 12:09

Fediuld:

Define "skyrocketed". 2990WX had "$53" per core and 3960X "$58", while the W-3265 "$140". And 3960X is faster than all of them. So price wise is absolute bargain. And if you do not like TR4 platform, there is still the 3950X.....

It certainly is astounding just how much AMD has undercut Intel on this cost-per-core basis (and by how much Intel have had to cut pricing), and equally astounding just how much these blatant facts are so conveniently forgotten by a...certain predictable subset.

#5790306

asturur

2020-05-20 12:28

illrigger:

Despite the concept that AMD is cheaper, they have been price matching Intel performance since Ryzen launched, once you consider the entire platform. They've pushed Intel to make improvements, but from a cost-to-performance standpoint they have very carefully been aligning themselves with what Intel has offered. That's only fair, they should make as much money as they can while driving the market forward. The big difference is when the platform gets ready for the next gen and stock is being cleared and CPUs end up dropping 25% - that never happened with Intel, as they were more careful to choke supply chains in the last few months before a launch, maintaining their retail pricing.

well B450 and zen 3000 is a cheap platform compared to intel. You hear just about z390 on intel side, and the smaller chipset arrive so much later and with cheap motherboards, while you can find a lot of fine midrange on the amd platform. Forget x570 of course

#5790311

Silva

2020-05-20 12:36

Zen 3 will be to me what 2500K was for 8 years. My 2600 seat is only provisory, warming it up for a 4000 CPU!